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Re:Reverse engineering ESP32 Wi-Fi driver: the road ahead by mschuster91 on Saturday May 25, 2024 @05:43AM (#40473890)
The thing is, China as a culture does have a completely different attitude towards intellectual property. For them, copying is not theft, it's acknowledge of something's quality. Andrew "bunnie" Huang has written (at least) two articles with more details [1][2].

[1] https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/2014/from-gongkai-to-open...

[2] https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/2013/the-12-gongkai-phone...

Re:Reverse engineering ESP32 Wi-Fi driver: the road ahead by rfoo on Saturday May 25, 2024 @06:30AM (#40474059)
> copying is not theft, it's acknowledge of something's quality

This is a common misconception. It is true that they don't think it is theft once it's widely available (even in underground community), but it's not because "copying is acknowledge of something's quality". This is one of the usual excuses.

A better phrasing would be: modern (post-1980s) Chinese people [1] care more about who is able to build the thing, not who is able to invent / design. They happily (and knowingly) steal your design and after a few iterations build it better and think it's totally legit because you failed to prevent them from stealing your design and you also can't build it better.

And the annoying part is, turns out, after copying all they can steal they surprisingly can invent, too.

[1] It's not yet a culture

Re:Reverse engineering ESP32 Wi-Fi driver: the road ahead by Rinzler89 on Saturday May 25, 2024 @07:37AM (#40474276)
Isn't this exactly the MO of post-war Japanese industry? Copy everything from the west for the local market, then improve and make it better and cheaper then seel it in their market for profits?
Re:Reverse engineering ESP32 Wi-Fi driver: the road ahead by toast0 on Saturday May 25, 2024 @10:25AM (#40475249)
Also the MO of early US industrialism. Copy everything from the UK and Europe, make it better and cheaper, apply it to local conditions, etc, etc. Only start supporting international patents when you've got lots of patents that warrant protection.
Re:Reverse engineering ESP32 Wi-Fi driver: the road ahead by makapuf on Saturday May 25, 2024 @02:29PM (#40476903)
See also: Nintendo and IP protection.
Re:Reverse engineering ESP32 Wi-Fi driver: the road ahead by mfuzzey on Saturday May 25, 2024 @05:05PM (#40477865)
Copying isn't theft (though it may still be illegal). Theft is "dishonest appropriation of property belonging to another with the intention to permanently deprive the other of it."

So if I steal your wallet, your phone or your car that's theft because you no longer have access to it and I do.

If I copy a book, a CD, a DVD, a document or a chip the original owner still has it. That doesn't mean there's no prejudice or that it's legal but it's not theft.