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Re:Apple's M4 Has Reportedly Adopted the ARMv9 Architecture by repelsteeltje on Friday May 24, 2024 @08:25AM (#40465456)
> The rumors of future products keep me of buying the current products.

Spot on!

Back in the nineties, Intel managed to push competing RISC architectures (UltraSparc, MIPS, DEC Alpha, PowerPC) out of the market using nothing but promises that Itanium was going to blow them all out of the water.

And apparently Apple is okay with procrastinating and cannibalizing current sales of M1, 2, 3 if it helps prevent some Snapdragon (or Ampere) sales.

Re:Apple's M4 Has Reportedly Adopted the ARMv9 Architecture by gumby on Friday May 24, 2024 @08:33AM (#40465534)
> And apparently Apple is okay with procrastinating and cannibalizing current sales of M1, 2, 3 if it helps prevent some Snapdragon (or Ampere) sales.

Not sure where “procrastinating” fits in (a typo?), but as Scott McNealy once said, “If someone shows up and eats our lunch, it might so well be us.”

Re:Apple's M4 Has Reportedly Adopted the ARMv9 Architecture by thfuran on Friday May 24, 2024 @08:28AM (#40465481)
There may be a world in which Apple is procrastinating in chip design, but it's not this one.
Re:Apple's M4 Has Reportedly Adopted the ARMv9 Architecture by ruined on Friday May 24, 2024 @02:29PM (#40469089)
>And apparently Apple is okay with procrastinating and cannibalizing current sales of M1, 2, 3 if it helps prevent some Snapdragon (or Ampere) sales.

sales of what

i actually can't think of a single competing product. admittedly i don't keep up with laptop news but still, i haven't heard of anything yet that can meaningfully compete with the m1 from four years ago

Re:Apple's M4 Has Reportedly Adopted the ARMv9 Architecture by nolongerthere on Friday May 24, 2024 @02:34PM (#40469135)
Microsoft just announced some lackluster arm laptops that they claim can compete with M-series chips. The question is what windows programs are gonna run on them...
Re:Apple's M4 Has Reportedly Adopted the ARMv9 Architecture by Tagbert on Friday May 24, 2024 @03:51PM (#40469879)
Some people have been running Windows 11 for Arm on a VM in Apple Silicon. It has an automatic transcoder that translates most x86 code at start. It seems to run many apps well. Microsoft claims these new machines have a better transcoder. This might work.
Re:Apple's M4 Has Reportedly Adopted the ARMv9 Architecture by fl0ki on Friday May 24, 2024 @02:58PM (#40469382)
Some folks have looked into it, and it doesn't sound too bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY-tMBk9Vx4

For me at least, the best possible outcome of this is that Windows handheld gaming devices become more power-efficient. That might be an advantage over Linux-based handhelds for a while, unless Valve decide that Proton needs to also be an architecture emulator. The chip efficiency wins must surely be tempting in this form factor.

Re:Apple's M4 Has Reportedly Adopted the ARMv9 Architecture by rbanffy on Friday May 24, 2024 @05:35PM (#40470672)
Your question answers itself. "What Windows programs" is the key part.

I don't have any need for any Windows-only program.