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Re:Tom Waits vs. Frito-Lay, Inc by Matticus_Rex on Thursday May 23, 2024 @02:56PM (#40458477)
> You're the only person in the room who thinks OpenAI didn't use samples of her voice for their voice model

Really? No one seems to be claiming that anywhere I've seen.

We know that they really did use a voice actress, and that it really is her actual voice, and that she was hired for it before ScarJo was approached. There's no "panic negotiation" there -- the most panic needed would be if someone internally identified that there could be a PR issue if people mistakenly thought it was close enough to seem like intentional impersonation.

Of course they wanted ScarJo, once they thought of it! It'd be great publicity. But that doesn't then mean that anyone who sounds somewhat like ScarJo (but certainly not identical) becomes retroactively unusable or makes it vocal impersonation.

Re:Tom Waits vs. Frito-Lay, Inc by marcus_holmes on Thursday May 23, 2024 @09:54PM (#40462121)
> But that doesn't then mean that anyone who sounds somewhat like ScarJo (but certainly not identical) becomes retroactively unusable or makes it vocal impersonation.

yes. yes it does. That's what TFA is saying. Waits' case is exactly about this. They hired a singer to make a recording to sound like Waits. OpenAI hired a voice actress with a voice like Her to make their AI sound like Her. And then their CEO tweeted "her". It's that simple.

Re:Tom Waits vs. Frito-Lay, Inc by Matticus_Rex on Thursday May 23, 2024 @10:30PM (#40462291)
Ford hired a singer to impersonate Waits in a parody of a Waits song in his exact style.

OpenAI hired a voice actress with a pleasant, low, breathy voice who shares a hint of a regional accent with ScarJo to be one of a bunch of voices for their models. Eight months after releasing it, the CEO tweeted "her." It's not illegal to hire someone who sounds a bit like a celebrity for something, and certainly not one who literally sounds more like a different celebrity (Rashida Jones).

This isn't a violation of rights of publicity for a number of reasons, but the most dispositive of them is that she doesn't actually sound that much like ScarJo. There's no vocal fry! That's the most distinctive part of her voice!

Re:Tom Waits vs. Frito-Lay, Inc by more_corn on Friday May 24, 2024 @11:44AM (#40467326)
I hate to commit the fallacy of ad hominem, but I wonder if you’re being deliberately obtuse.
Re:Tom Waits vs. Frito-Lay, Inc by Matticus_Rex on Friday May 24, 2024 @02:41PM (#40469207)
I'd guess it's that I'm approaching the question like a lawyer, which, while appropriate for legal questions, often reads as obtuse.