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Re:It looks a lot like VMware just lost a 24,000-VM customer by alephnerd on Thursday May 23, 2024 @07:48AM (#40453510)
When you have a sticky existing customer who's about to churn, you end up discounting below the price of the migration, then slowly rise the cost again, then do the same thing again.

All vendors do this - you can't escape it. This is why companies began leaving for the Cloud - sure it's upfront more expensive, but the negotiations are not as protracted.

Re:It looks a lot like VMware just lost a 24,000-VM customer by benterix on Thursday May 23, 2024 @08:30AM (#40453890)
> All vendors do this - you can't escape it. This is why companies began leaving for the Cloud - sure it's upfront more expensive, but the negotiations are not as protracted.

I don't get your point here: if you mean the public cloud, it's the synonym of vendor lock-in now.

Re:It looks a lot like VMware just lost a 24,000-VM customer by alephnerd on Thursday May 23, 2024 @08:39AM (#40453973)
Everything is vendor lock-in. The difference is negotiations are not as protracted, the muscle to develop a multi-cloud strategy is fairly well built in our industry, AND cloud purchasing offers multiple different styles of billing (eg. subscription driven, multiyear, credit driven, etc) whereas with on-prem you have only a single type of billing model.
Re:It looks a lot like VMware just lost a 24,000-VM customer by markus_zhang on Thursday May 23, 2024 @08:25AM (#40453856)
Sorry just to clarify, leave for the cloud or leave cloud? Looks like in this case it is indeed leave for the cloud (leave VMs) but I also heard a lot about leaving cloud for self hosting.
Re:It looks a lot like VMware just lost a 24,000-VM customer by alephnerd on Thursday May 23, 2024 @08:29AM (#40453881)
Leaving/left for the cloud. There is some scaling down of cloud resources for self hosting, but as a whole all CSPs have seen growth in users across all buckets.

On-prem doesn't give you flexibility, and leaves you open to getting arm twisted by vendors. Similar stuff happens in cloud ofc, but it's easier to implement a multi-cloud strategy than a multi-hypervisor strategy.

Re:It looks a lot like VMware just lost a 24,000-VM customer by markus_zhang on Thursday May 23, 2024 @08:42AM (#40453995)
Gotcha, thanks for the insight.