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Re:ICC seeks arrest warrants against Sinwar and Netanyahu fo... by ngcc_hk on Monday May 20, 2024 @08:44PM (#40422663)
One phone call to whom? Hamas? The conflict is 2 sided. It may pause. But not end. This is very different from Russia invade Ukraine, there is no dispute of the sovereignty in a wider sense. Even china would not say U belong to R. But the hell of P and I, …

There is no easy solution … from camp David to now.

Re:ICC seeks arrest warrants against Sinwar and Netanyahu fo... by doctorpangloss on Monday May 20, 2024 @09:20PM (#40422953)
> There is no easy solution … from camp David to now.

Everyone from the Hague to UC Berkeley administrators is learning one hard truth: agreements with some polities in that part of the world and their ambassadors are not worth very much. But if you pretend that they are then it seems like there are easy solutions.

Re:ICC seeks arrest warrants against Sinwar and Netanyahu fo... by jmyeet on Monday May 20, 2024 @09:36PM (#40423068)
> One phone call to whom? Hamas?

To Israel. The modern state of Israel simply cannot exist without the largesse and political cover the US provides.

> There is no easy solution

Yes and no. End the genocide. End the apartheid. Nuremberg-like trials to deal with war criminals on both sides. Reconstruction of a single state. 750,000 settlers has made a two-state solution impossible.

We've been here before: post-US civil war and post-apartheid South Africa.

There is the idea that the currently oppressed population will rise up in vilence against their former oppressors. History doesn't back up this view. Our modern examples such as Reconstruction showed the opposite: the rise of the KKK and the rise of violence against former slaves by their former oppressors.

Afghanistan has been described as the graveyard of empires. This region may be vying for that title.

Re:ICC seeks arrest warrants against Sinwar and Netanyahu fo... by dbdoskey on Monday May 20, 2024 @11:50PM (#40423909)
Israel existed for decades without US support. No Jews will agree to live under a Muslim majority one state solution, it will inevitably decay into something similar to Lebanon, Syria, or Egypt.
Re:ICC seeks arrest warrants against Sinwar and Netanyahu fo... by murderfs on Tuesday May 21, 2024 @01:11AM (#40424391)
> No Jews will agree to live under a Muslim majority one state solution

Couldn't you say the same about whites in apartheid South Africa?

Re:ICC seeks arrest warrants against Sinwar and Netanyahu fo... by tptacek on Tuesday May 21, 2024 @02:19AM (#40424771)
The situations aren't comparable. Most Israeli citizens are of MENA origin; they are not, as activist wisdom would have it, ambitious Europeans.
Re:ICC seeks arrest warrants against Sinwar and Netanyahu fo... by jbenjoseph on Tuesday May 21, 2024 @02:35AM (#40424875)
It's really not the same thing. Jews have a very long history of being oppressed by Muslims and Christians.
Re:ICC seeks arrest warrants against Sinwar and Netanyahu fo... by nolongerthere on Tuesday May 21, 2024 @02:57AM (#40425014)
I don’t know that you want to bring South Africa as an example of success. Even the majority is fed up with their government.