Re:ICC seeks arrest warrants against Sinwar and Netanyahu fo...
by umanwizard on Monday May 20, 2024 @04:56PM
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If a country were run like ancient Athens today, nobody would consider it a democracy. We are talking about "democracy" in its modern meaning, not the regimes that used that term in a completely different way thousands of years ago.
Re:ICC seeks arrest warrants against Sinwar and Netanyahu fo...
by JumpCrisscross on Monday May 20, 2024 @05:06PM
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> We are talking about "democracy" in its modern meaning
You are. That’s a redefinition. It neuters the term of its millennia-old moral weight.
Sure, I’ll agree Israel isn’t a democracy per whatever definition you’re using. It isn’t a “real”country per others’. At that point, however, you’re just expressing a personal dislike. Nothing foundational.
Re:ICC seeks arrest warrants against Sinwar and Netanyahu fo...
by umanwizard on Monday May 20, 2024 @05:10PM
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It's obvious that we are talking about the modern meaning of democracy because the entire thread is about current events.
> I’ll agree Israel isn’t a democracy per whatever definition you’re using.
Okay then, do you have an actual point, other than quibbling about what words mean?
That’s redefining democracy to the extent it excludes Athens. The term you may be looking for is a liberal democracy, or more precisely universal suffrage.