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Re:Ask HN: Video streaming is expensive yet YouTube "seems" ... by Dylan16807 on Sunday May 19, 2024 @10:32PM (#40411584)
Anyone doing things at great scale is buying many-gigabit connections directly. Which is also 100x cheaper than AWS.

The number above was a thousand dollars per month per 10gbps, and AWS would charge more than a hundred thousand dollars at the listed $0.05/GB price.

Re:Ask HN: Video streaming is expensive yet YouTube "seems" ... by immibis on Sunday May 19, 2024 @11:56PM (#40412132)
Note: that was for a dedicated 10-gigabit link from specific location A to specific location B, plus a peering at one large IX, without any access to the rest of the internet.

Nonetheless it does give a ballpark for the cost of bandwidth being a lot lower than people think. A 10G internet connection would be cheaper to provide in some parts of that equation and more expensive in others - should end up in the same ballpark.

Re:Ask HN: Video streaming is expensive yet YouTube "seems" ... by Dylan16807 on Monday May 20, 2024 @12:48AM (#40412342)
By "above" I meant ckdarby's number.

And honestly 10 cents per Mbps sounds kind of high for raw transit, I interpreted it as a price for actual utilization.

Re:Ask HN: Video streaming is expensive yet YouTube "seems" ... by ckdarby on Monday May 20, 2024 @01:47PM (#40418048)
It was more than 5 years ago and was not a direct commitment. Another company was being used for their data centers, and this was a lease/rental agreement of equipment; Think colocation model, but where you're like 50-80% of being the main client of the data centers.

Add 10-25% profit for that company to get closer to true "raw transit" pricing from the carriers directly.

Re:Ask HN: Video streaming is expensive yet YouTube "seems" ... by mtnGoat on Monday May 20, 2024 @11:47PM (#40423886)
Also, can you show me any public pricing that is 100x cheaper than AWS? With same QOS! Or are you just throwing numbers around?
Re:Ask HN: Video streaming is expensive yet YouTube "seems" ... by Dylan16807 on Tuesday May 21, 2024 @02:44AM (#40424929)
What specifically is the QOS for AWS?

But sure, if you want citations for $0.10 per Mbps in bulk for transit, that's easy to find/beat.

https://he.net/ "Get BGP+IPv6+IPv4 for $0.06/Mbps!"

https://www.fdcservers.net/ip-transit Europe, North America: 10Gbps $499/month

And telegeography just sells information, but they had a blog post that's now three years out of date reporting that "In Q2 2021, the lowest 10 GigE prices on offer were at the brink of $0.09 per Mbps per month. The lowest for 100 GigE were $0.06 per Mbps per month."

You need to factor in that your utilization won't be 100%, but if you're comparing 6 cents for a Mbps and and 5 cents for a gigabyte, then the exact point where AWS is 100x more expensive is when your line is 36% utilized.