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Re:Microwaves Not Made in China by Ekaros on Sunday May 19, 2024 @10:08AM (#40407082)
No you put it in there. Slavery is now part of the document it is explicitly approved and glorified part of that document. Only way to really fix that sort of thing is to get rid of such evil document entirely. Correct way would have been total and absolute ban. But instead it was chosen not to do that. But to add only tiny clause against it.
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Re:Microwaves Not Made in China by subjectsigma on Sunday May 19, 2024 @10:14AM (#40407105)
Can you point me to the part where it says that? I’ll be sure to vote to change it and/or call my representatives, something I do every so often.

In the meantime while we’re working on that, do you know of any countries where I couldn’t do that? Perhaps places where the state sponsored social media would censor these words I’m typing before they made it to you. I want to keep a list and avoid buying microwaves from those places

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Re:Microwaves Not Made in China by Ekaros on Sunday May 19, 2024 @10:19AM (#40407145)
Paraphrased the 13th amendment says slavery or involuntary servitude shall be used as punishment for crime. That if anything in my reading is absolute support for slavery. Which should be clear looking at how high ratio of people in the USA is punished for crimes.
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Re:Microwaves Not Made in China by maxerickson on Sunday May 19, 2024 @10:28AM (#40407203)
That's not a reasonable paraphrasing. There's no directive that it "shall be used", there's an exception to the statement that it isn't allowed to exist.

I can understand objecting to penal labor, but you are over in "words don't mean things" territory.

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Re:Microwaves Not Made in China by subjectsigma on Sunday May 19, 2024 @10:33AM (#40407226)
Sure, let’s assume that’s a problem. The wording is not great, I don’t like it, let’s get rid of it. I’m still not sure how that requires re-writing the whole thing?

I also wonder - if you’re so opposed to slavery, what do you think about https://www.walkfree.org/global-slavery-index/country-studie... ? You did call them the good guys.

EDIT: it’s not even zero in Finland! https://www.walkfree.org/global-slavery-index/map/#mode=map:...

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Re:Microwaves Not Made in China by Ekaros on Sunday May 19, 2024 @10:40AM (#40407279)
https://www.walkfree.org/global-slavery-index/country-studie...

Gives 3.3 people per thousand in slavery. If the people there were good human beings should it not be zero? They have had much longer time to fix this, but have done absolutely nothing clearly. So they must be the bad guys, don't you agree? At least we can agree that they are comparatively worse guys. As they have had much longer to fight against slavery but have not done it.

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Re:Microwaves Not Made in China by subjectsigma on Sunday May 19, 2024 @10:50AM (#40407331)
No, I don’t agree and your argument makes no sense. Slavery has historically gone down in American but is going up in China. Clearly we have not done “absolutely nothing”. I don’t know what you mean by “a longer time”, slavery has existed in China since well before the current Chinese regime.

America is not perfect (maybe not even good) but your attempt to portray them as “worse” than China is nonsensical, the Chinese NK and Russian governments are as bad as it gets in 2024

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