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Re:ChatGPT-4o vs. Math by Chinjut on Thursday May 16, 2024 @12:54PM (#40380528)
It's a choke because it failed to get the answer. Saying other true things but not getting the answer is not a success.
Re:ChatGPT-4o vs. Math by bombadilo on Thursday May 16, 2024 @01:08PM (#40380709)
I mean, in this context I agree. But most people doing math in high school or university are graded on their working of a problem, with the final result usually equating to a small proportion of the total marks received.
Re:ChatGPT-4o vs. Math by giaour on Thursday May 16, 2024 @03:24PM (#40382112)
This depends on the grader and the context. Outside of an academic setting, sometimes being close to the right answer is better than nothing, and sometimes it is much worse. You can expect a human to understand which contexts require absolute precision and which do not, but that seems like a stretch for an LLM.
Re:ChatGPT-4o vs. Math by phatfish on Thursday May 16, 2024 @05:23PM (#40383366)
LLMs being confidently incorrect until they are challenged is a bad trait. At least they have a system prompt to tell them to be polite about it.

Most people learn to avoid that person that is wrong/has bad judgment and is arrogant about it.

Re:ChatGPT-4o vs. Math by ifwinterco on Friday May 17, 2024 @02:41AM (#40387097)
I think current LLMs suffer from something similar to the Dunning-Kruger effect when it comes to reasoning - in order to judge correctly that you don't understand something, you first need to understand it at least a bit.

Not only do LLMs not know some things, they don't know that they don't know because of a lack of true reasoning ability, so they inevitably end up like Peter Zeihan, confidently spouting nonsense

Re:ChatGPT-4o vs. Math by chongli on Thursday May 16, 2024 @01:31PM (#40380957)
But most people doing math in high school or university are graded on their working of a problem, with the final result usually equating to a small proportion of the total marks received

That heavily depends on the individual grader/instructor. A good grader will take into account the amount of progress toward the solution. Restating trivial facts of the problem (in slightly different ways) or pursuing an invalid solution to a dead end should not be awarded any marks.

Re:ChatGPT-4o vs. Math by slushy-chivalry on Thursday May 16, 2024 @02:33PM (#40381659)
it choked because it didn't solve for `t` at the end

impressive attempt though, it used number of wraps which I found quite clever

Re:ChatGPT-4o vs. Math by perfobotto on Thursday May 16, 2024 @01:24PM (#40380871)
This is supposed to be a product , not a research artifact.