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Re:Jan Leike Resigns from OpenAI by woodruffw on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @12:22PM (#40368998)
Only on HN would an essentially Hobbesian view ("society is an optimal solution to individual human weaknesses") be labeled "extreme left" :-)

(Leviathan, XIII).

Re:Jan Leike Resigns from OpenAI by baobabKoodaa on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @12:24PM (#40369031)
> Only on HN would an essentially Hobbesian view ("society is an optimal solution to individual human weaknesses") be labeled "extreme left"

Now you're just trying to twist my words to make it appear as if I said something which I didn't say.

I don't agree with that statement. I would not label the words "society is an optimal solution to individual human weaknesses" as "extreme left".

Society can be an optimal solution to individual human weaknesses while different people perform different functions within society.

Don't smear me again.

Re:Jan Leike Resigns from OpenAI by woodruffw on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @12:32PM (#40369117)
It's not a "smear." Besides, you're the one bandying "extreme left" around.

I think if you read "job" to mean "social obligation" or "responsibility," you'll understand that the GP's statement is essentially the Hobbesian one. If you read it to mean "the thing someone pays you to do," you'll get a very silly (and obviously incorrect) argument.

Re:Jan Leike Resigns from OpenAI by baobabKoodaa on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @12:44PM (#40369285)
> I think if you read "job" to mean "social obligation" or "responsibility," you'll understand that the GP's statement is essentially the Hobbesian one

Let's read it as "responsibility". No, I don't agree with you on the statement being equivalent to what you wrote earlier. Different people can have different responsibilities in the world. "Making things safe for our most vulnerable individuals" is not a responsibility that belongs to literally every person in the world. It's okay if someone just makes furniture that's safe for the average person, while it has a sharp edge that can hurt a mentally unstable person.