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Re:Fastest rate of natural carbon dioxide rise over the last... by gmd63 on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @09:30AM (#40366680)
Everyone hell bent on leaving is actually distracted from the real less immediately glamorous challenge, which is learning to sustain life and exercise restraint.
Re:Fastest rate of natural carbon dioxide rise over the last... by jessetemp on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @10:07AM (#40367146)
They’re probably referring to the earth getting enveloped by the sun in a billion or so years as it expands.

I still think you’re right though. The better plan is staying on earth. The trick is moving it outward as the habitable zone expands with the sun. Only have to convince humanity to sling a giant meteor just outside earth’s orbit every year for millions of years without messing up. What could go wrong?

Re:Fastest rate of natural carbon dioxide rise over the last... by triceratops on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @10:22AM (#40367335)
> They’re probably referring to the earth getting enveloped by the sun in a billion or so years as it expands.

Mother Gaia refers to the Earth, not the sun.

Re:Fastest rate of natural carbon dioxide rise over the last... by andybak on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @09:50AM (#40366949)
I think the point is that we need both. One is short/medium term and the other is medium/long term.

An asteroid/comet impact big enough to wipe us out is a statistically certainty - not science fiction.

Re:Fastest rate of natural carbon dioxide rise over the last... by itsoktocry on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @09:54AM (#40366981)
>Everyone hell bent on leaving is actually distracted from the real less immediately glamorous challenge, which is learning to sustain life and exercise restraint.

Unless you're willing to exterminate people who don't comply, the incentives are such that maintaining the status quo will give economic (and military) advantages.

Besides, over long time scales there's more to fear than a few degrees of climate change.

Re:Fastest rate of natural carbon dioxide rise over the last... by saagarjha on Thursday May 16, 2024 @06:42AM (#40376889)
There are plenty of things that give economic and military advantages that we thwart.
Re:Fastest rate of natural carbon dioxide rise over the last... by sniggers on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @12:55PM (#40369450)
Restraint won't make the unpredictable gamma ray burst or unstoppably-sized asteroid go away.
Re:Fastest rate of natural carbon dioxide rise over the last... by zelphirkalt on Thursday May 16, 2024 @03:03AM (#40375901)
Or has realized that even with sustaining life and exercising restraint, there are enough people, who do not care and destroy all positive outcomes.