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Re:My VM is lighter (and safer) than your container (2017) by zokier on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @09:50AM (#40355220)
People were running containers for a decade before rootless podman came around.

There has been lot of sharp corners around userns and related tech that needed to get resolved. Notably Debian& Ubuntu disabled unprivileged userns for some legitimate security concerns

Re:My VM is lighter (and safer) than your container (2017) by epr on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @10:21AM (#40355517)
Funny, the original commit message for that suggests it was simply a precaution. It's not out of the ordinary to avoid newer kernel features just in case.

> This is a short-term patch. Unprivileged use of CLONE_NEWUSER is certainly an intended feature of user namespaces. However for at least saucy we want to make sure that, if any security issues are found, we have a fail-safe.

from: https://web.archive.org/web/20211022013829/https://kernel.ub...

Re:My VM is lighter (and safer) than your container (2017) by Aardwolf on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @10:04AM (#40355352)
I really don't get that: having to run something substantial as root seems a much bigger security concern, than what it is shielding from user space (example: hosting a web server at port 80)