Telegram has launched a pretty intense campaign to malign Signal as insecure

Re:Telegram has launched a pretty intense campaign to malign... by palata on Monday May 13, 2024 @10:12AM (#40343623)

> But the history of the Signal protocol and implementation traces back 20 years

Are you sure about that? TextSecure was created more 10 years ago than 20. 20 years ago, we did not have smartphones.

As I remember, TextSecure started with SMS (but that was not the Signal protocol) and added "internet" messages right after WhatsApp got bought (which was about when Telegram was started).

I love the Signal protocol, but I would say it's more 10 years old (like Telegram). Or am I missing something?

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Re:Telegram has launched a pretty intense campaign to malign... by lynndotpy on Monday May 13, 2024 @10:58AM (#40344084)

Signal/TextSecure (/DRA/Axolotl) has a pretty strong throughline from the "off-the-record" protocol (OTR) from 2004/2005. Signal themselves describes TextSecure as a derivative of OTR (https://signal.org/blog/simplifying-otr-deniability/).

It's close enough that if, say, a novel attack against OTR were discovered today, the first thing I'd want to know is if there are any implications against Signal.

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Re:Telegram has launched a pretty intense campaign to malign... by palata on Monday May 13, 2024 @11:51AM (#40344685)

Oh right. It does come from OTR which is 20 years old. Thanks for the clarification!

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