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Re:The USDA's gardening zones shifted, this map shows you wh... by angry_moose on Monday May 13, 2024 @09:59AM (#40343465)
Same here. The longstanding "rule" for my area is "no planting before Mother's Day!"

For the last 8 years or so, ~April 20th has been very safe. I usually pick the first weekend after ~April 15th, which doesn't have an overnight low under 38 on the 10 day forecast. Haven't had an issue yet.

Thankfully some of the stores are starting to break the "rule", because for a long time it was impossible to even get plants before Mother's Day.

Re:The USDA's gardening zones shifted, this map shows you wh... by jvm___ on Monday May 13, 2024 @10:58AM (#40344085)
"No mow May" to save the bees/over-wintering insects - is now almost impossible as you'll have more than a foot high of regular lawn grass before June 1.
Re:The USDA's gardening zones shifted, this map shows you wh... by MikeTheGreat on Monday May 13, 2024 @11:11AM (#40344243)
Genuine question: how does not mowing your lawn helps bees / insects?

I'm guessing that the lawn itself is incidental, and by not mowing you're letting flowers (including dandelions and clover?) grow?

Also, I'm gonna be up front about my ulterior motive: I hardly mow my lawn anyways and would love to have another reason to justify / rationalize what I'm already doing :)

But still - genuine question.

Re:The USDA's gardening zones shifted, this map shows you wh... by angry_moose on Monday May 13, 2024 @11:16AM (#40344292)
Many insects lay their eggs in the grass which hatch in early spring. By mowing early you may be destroying all of these eggs before they hatch.

There's debate about how effective it is, but that's the theory at least.

Re:The USDA's gardening zones shifted, this map shows you wh... by jvm___ on Monday May 13, 2024 @12:44PM (#40345261)
Also any sort of wildflowers let the bees eat an easy first meal before everything blooms.
Re:The USDA's gardening zones shifted, this map shows you wh... by andybak on Monday May 13, 2024 @11:33AM (#40344475)
Impossible or inconvenient?
Re:The USDA's gardening zones shifted, this map shows you wh... by jvm___ on Monday May 13, 2024 @12:43PM (#40345254)
Irresponsible looking if you share 20ft of grass with a neighbour.
Re:The USDA's gardening zones shifted, this map shows you wh... by alistairSH on Monday May 13, 2024 @06:36PM (#40349382)
Meh. They could stop over-tending their yard.

The perfect lawn is a relatively new thing - blame Scott lawn and other lawn-care companies.

Re:The USDA's gardening zones shifted, this map shows you wh... by jvm___ on Sunday May 19, 2024 @07:30AM (#40406175)
I agree on the class-ist vibes of a perfect lawn, it seems ugly and pointless. If you're going to put in the work, why not a beautiful native plants garden?
Re:The USDA's gardening zones shifted, this map shows you wh... by uxp100 on Monday May 13, 2024 @02:34PM (#40346652)
Impossible with my reel mower. Nearly impossible with my buddies electric mower. I think a good gas mower will get through it ok.
Re:The USDA's gardening zones shifted, this map shows you wh... by HeyLaughingBoy on Monday May 13, 2024 @12:43PM (#40345248)
I already have foot-high grass in places. Ask me if I care :-)
Re:The USDA's gardening zones shifted, this map shows you wh... by PaulDavisThe1st on Monday May 13, 2024 @08:24PM (#40350200)
We have that rule here near Santa Fe, NM.

This year, this year the day before Mother's Day saw a hailstorm that decimated much of our cold-weather early crops (arugula, peas, spinach etc.)