Re:Home ownership is not the boon to older Americans that it...
by alphabettsy on Sunday May 12, 2024 @09:30AM
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Midwest prices are nowhere near California prices. Not even moderately close. The only place that might be remotely true is Chicago.
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Re:Home ownership is not the boon to older Americans that it...
by bombcar on Sunday May 12, 2024 @07:17PM
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I have some properties I track, the CA one used to be 5x the Midwest one, now itβs only about 2-2.5x.
Re:Home ownership is not the boon to older Americans that it...
by tptacek on Sunday May 12, 2024 @07:21PM
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Chicagoland prices are much lower than California prices, even in high-demand areas.
Re:Home ownership is not the boon to older Americans that it...
by nradov on Sunday May 12, 2024 @11:27PM
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Chicagoland prices factor in high levels of state and city debt. Someone moving to Chicago from out of state is essentially taking on an extra $85K of debt. While residents aren't directly personally liable for those debts, they should expect higher taxes and lower service levels in the future. A municipal bankruptcy is possible.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/chicago-will-need-a-miracle-to-...
California and it's large cities have their own fiscal problems but generally not as bad.
Re:Home ownership is not the boon to older Americans that it...
by tptacek on Sunday May 12, 2024 @11:54PM
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I don't know. I'm pretty well acquainted with the Chicagoland fiscal situation, which is real and ugly, and this "add $85k" thing seems like a just-so story. Can you show your work getting to that figure?
Re:Home ownership is not the boon to older Americans that it...
by bombcar on Monday May 13, 2024 @09:36AM
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It's probably some math involving "unfunded liabilities" that the government has (usually oversized pensions or something).
This can cause a cascade where the governmental entity that has the liabilities keeps raising taxes on its constituents so they keep moving outward to the suburbs or away.
Detroit is a famous example of this, but it's happened to other areas (cities have gone bankrupt before).