23% of bachelor's degrees and 43% of master's degrees have a negative ROI

Re:23% of bachelor's degrees and 43% of master's degrees hav... by hayertjez on Sunday May 12, 2024 @07:36AM (#40333583)

I’m curious for countries like mine (Netherlands) where a bachelor cost you €12k inc. books etc. (if you pay the maximum without studyfunding) As some vocational education profession is high in demand right now compared to some bachelor degrees.

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Re:23% of bachelor's degrees and 43% of master's degrees hav... by mettamage on Sunday May 12, 2024 @07:43AM (#40333618)

Or countries where education is actually cheap. Wasn't Germany doing that for a while?

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Re:23% of bachelor's degrees and 43% of master's degrees hav... by RGamma on Sunday May 12, 2024 @07:51AM (#40333664)

Studying most things in most places is free of charge in Germany. Generally there'll be a mandatory fee that includes a public transport ticket and some administrative overhead (~300-400€/6 months).

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Re:23% of bachelor's degrees and 43% of master's degrees hav... by ongy on Monday May 13, 2024 @05:33AM (#40341294)

Where do you get those numbers from?

When I studied (2014-2018) I paid 100-150€/semester Slight trend upwards, might be 200€ now

And that was in Munich, which tends to be expensive.

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Re:23% of bachelor's degrees and 43% of master's degrees hav... by RGamma on Monday May 13, 2024 @06:10AM (#40341497)

At least in Cologne they're regularly hitting 300 (https://verwaltung.uni-koeln.de/studsek/content/studium/ruec...). Dortmund was about ~340 last summer semester (https://www.tu-dortmund.de/storages/tu_website/Dezernat_4/De...). The 400 was just an uneducated guess for more expensive regions.

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Re:23% of bachelor's degrees and 43% of master's degrees hav... by ongy on Monday May 13, 2024 @10:26AM (#40343764)

Oh https://www.lmu.de/de/workspace-fuer-studierende/1x1-des-stu....

LMU down to 85 for Munich While that doesn't include a full Semesterticket, it's cheaper than Dortmund without

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Re:23% of bachelor's degrees and 43% of master's degrees hav... by badpun on Sunday May 12, 2024 @09:20AM (#40334224)

In Poland state universities are free. You only need to pay for books, and they're reasonably priced (i.e. the textbooks prices are not extortionate like for example in the US), like normal books.

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