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Re:Is AI lying to me? Scientists warn of growing capacity fo... by renegade-otter on Friday May 10, 2024 @12:28PM (#40320853)
AI has no incentives. ChatGPT is a file. IT'S A FILE. If you don't ask it anything, it just sits there. A FILE with word weights is not going to "lie".

No one ever accuses the Google index of lying when they get a misleading result.

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Re:Is AI lying to me? Scientists warn of growing capacity fo... by pixl97 on Friday May 10, 2024 @12:34PM (#40320925)
This take is useless....

Lets take a simple non computing model first: You're in a car, you hit the brakes pedal, you expect the brakes to be applied and the car to slow down. If it does not, then the brakes are broken.

More complex computing model: Your modern car interprets there is an object in front of it and applies the brakes. If there was, yay, your car may have saved you. If there was not, you may have just caused a 20 car pile up on interstate. So much for that 'FILE' just being a file.

Please wake up and realize that you live in a world where 'FILES' have agency depending on their connectedness.

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Re:Is AI lying to me? Scientists warn of growing capacity fo... by SpicyLemonZest on Friday May 10, 2024 @12:45PM (#40321062)
Sure they do! I just searched and found a random example https://gizmodo.com/googles-algorithm-is-lying-to-you-about-.... It's less common because of the format of the results. If I ask a librarian to get me a list of books matching suchandsuch criteria, and he excludes some that should have been on the list, I wouldn't normally say that the resulting list is a lie even if I think he deliberately excluded them for nefarious purposes.
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