Re:Proton Mail Discloses User Data Leading to Arrest in Spain
by Kbelicius on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @03:55AM
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> unsanctioned invasions of privacy
GPs definition might as well come from wikipedia.
Re:Proton Mail Discloses User Data Leading to Arrest in Spain
by Klonoar on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @04:07AM
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Their breakdown is what’s parroted up and down comment chains on this site when it comes to privacy/anonymity, so I’m frankly not sure how you’ve missed it over the years.
Re:Proton Mail Discloses User Data Leading to Arrest in Spain
by 0xEF on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @05:08AM
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That, and the terms themselves tend to invoke clues about the meaning. Privacy implies there is an identity, but it is kept hidden. Anonymity implies there is no identity established so there is nothing to hide.
We don't see much of the latter since most web services require an email to sign up, at minimum, which still leaves discoverable bread crumbs. The web services that require you to give up nothing to use them are far less popular, so I guess I can see why people might conflate the two.
Re:Proton Mail Discloses User Data Leading to Arrest in Spain
by toolz on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @08:34AM
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I'm not sure where you're drawing your implications from, but that is not implied, to me. I frequently see the concept of privacy applied to situations where an entity isn't required to ID themselves for the sake of privacy.
The common description when contrasting anonymity vs privacy is that anonymity allows one to do things publicly without being ID'd while privacy allows one to do things without the public having knowledge. There is no implication or requirement that the private party has been ID'd by another other entity.
Re:Proton Mail Discloses User Data Leading to Arrest in Spain
by rmbyrro on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @05:04AM
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If there's a court order from due judicial process, isnt't it sanctioned invasion of privacy?
Re:Proton Mail Discloses User Data Leading to Arrest in Spain
by krageon on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @05:56AM
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Sanctioned by the state, which the right to privacy should protect you from. The fact that your country habitually violates your rights doesn't change anything about the fact that you have a right to them.
>The right not to be subjected to unsanctioned invasions of privacy by the government, corporations, or individuals is part of many countries' privacy laws, and in some cases, constitutions.
So according to Wikipedia, at least in some cases, privacy is protection against the state. Where does your definition come from?