Re:More than 100 arrested in Spain in $900k WhatsApp scheme
by throwitaway222 on Monday May 06, 2024 @08:13PM
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off with their heads
Re:More than 100 arrested in Spain in $900k WhatsApp scheme
by UniverseHacker on Monday May 06, 2024 @07:08PM
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Why would they be afraid of a random stranger on whatsapp?
Re:More than 100 arrested in Spain in $900k WhatsApp scheme
by lupire on Monday May 06, 2024 @08:01PM
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They don't undertand the technical details. All they know is someone appears able and willing to violate social and legal norms, and was able to make contact. To lizard brain, it can feel like meeting a mugger in a dark alley.
Re:More than 100 arrested in Spain in $900k WhatsApp scheme
by varispeed on Monday May 06, 2024 @07:13PM
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This also works where police abandoned the victims. They feel they'll have no recourse if scammer escalates and becomes violent, so they rationalise that giving in to the scam will be cheaper and less stressful than going to the police and potentially putting their life at risk.
Re:More than 100 arrested in Spain in $900k WhatsApp scheme
by nickff on Monday May 06, 2024 @07:19PM
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The police are not there to protect individuals, they’re there to protect the government. This has been made abundantly clear in a number of cases where police have disclaimed any duty to citizens & residents.
Given all of that, the victims are reacting appropriately.
Re:More than 100 arrested in Spain in $900k WhatsApp scheme
by vladms on Monday May 06, 2024 @07:27PM
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I would not generalize. Different countries have different police forces. It's true that police will reflect some of the problems of their society (either violence, racism or others), but even that might be more or less strong tendency.
Re:More than 100 arrested in Spain in $900k WhatsApp scheme
by krageon on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @03:38AM
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Every police force exists for the state. They are the means by which the state exerts violence on you. The army is the means by which the state exerts violence on all the other countries' citizens.
Re:More than 100 arrested in Spain in $900k WhatsApp scheme
by lupire on Monday May 06, 2024 @08:04PM
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More properly, police in US have a duty to society, not to any specific individual. They are law enforcement. Not crime prevention or victim protection.
This is of course a huge problem, because as seen in Uvalde in elsewhere, not only do police have no obligation to help you (which by itself is reasonable of undesirable), but are also empowered to prevent you from helping yourself.
1. Victim suspects scam
2. Victim recognizes the presence of predator.
3. Victim gets scared.
4. Victim tried to maintain composure, but can't think of a way to escape the situation without the predator pursuing.
5. Victim appeases predator because they fear all the terrible things this predator might do, as the predator has no morality and the victim's civilization has collapsed around them.
These predators are violating the deepest social contract. They are acting like brilliant, vicious animals. They deserve to be treated like such, yet they are cloaked in the protection of civilized society. They are a cancer on humanity.