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Re:Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices by Wolfenstein98k on Monday May 06, 2024 @09:20AM (#40274304)
There's nothing undemocratic about banning foreign propaganda or news outlets.

Illiberal maybe, but not undemocratic.

Re:Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices by Al-Khwarizmi on Monday May 06, 2024 @10:18AM (#40274985)
Freedom of the press is typically considered one of the tenets of a democracy. The vote becomes meaningless if voters cannot be informed, which includes having access to all possible points of view.
Re:Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices by Wolfenstein98k on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @01:20AM (#40282596)
Again, liberalism.

If a supermajority opposes free press, it would be undemocratic to force it upon them.

Re:Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices by aprilthird2021 on Monday May 06, 2024 @11:22AM (#40275736)
Sure there is. What hope do citizens have in exercising the right to vote if their leaders control what they can and cannot read and hear?
Re:Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices by Wolfenstein98k on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @01:21AM (#40282601)
If the leaders do so based on majority opinion, that is democratic.

Too many people - usually Americans - confuse liberal democracy with democracy.

Liberal democracy is a phrase for a reason - and the liberal comes first for a reason!

Re:Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices by aprilthird2021 on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @09:43AM (#40285353)
If the leaders install autocracy based on majority opinion is that democratic? Because you're essentially describing the government of Iran at that point, led by a Supreme Leader who cannot be voted out, e.g. a very undemocratic system.

Just because people vote for something doesn't make the thing they voted for democratic. Historically people have voted to install a non-democratic government before.

Re:Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices by Wolfenstein98k on Thursday May 09, 2024 @02:56AM (#40305928)
Yes, democracy can vote to end itself and replace itself with autocracy.

If not, it's not democracy! You're deciding to overrule the demos and enforce your minority opinion!

I know it seems like pedantry but we shouldn't confuse liberalism with democracy.

Re:Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices by aprilthird2021 on Thursday May 09, 2024 @10:15AM (#40308438)
But the resulting autocracy is not democratic. People voting is democratic but what they vote for may not be