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Re:Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices by invalidname on Sunday May 05, 2024 @09:34PM (#40270304)
At the risk of being downvoted as the parent comment. There were many reports in Israeli media showing their reporters framing a false narrative around the conflict.

To be fair, I think that blocking etc. is a dumb move by the government. Even though they are clearly a very biased organization the damage of closing their offices is probably worse than the alternative.

The fear mongering of the top parent comment is unjustified and not exactly accurate. I'm physically in Tel Aviv and can access the Al Jazeera website just fine. News outlets can't be closed and there's no "great firewall" in Israel. There is a censor but its usage is relatively limited in the age of the internet.

Examples of Al Jazeera bias include a famous video of a Gazan interviewed by a reporter blaming Hamas for everything and the reporter immediately cutting it off so it won't break the narrative that everyone in Gaza blames only Israel.

They're the ones that promoted the fake hospital bombing and they are the source of most fake unsubstantiated stories. Their Arabic language channel is far worse than their English coverage.

They made up fake stories about IDF soldiers raping in Gaza and obviously didn't report about the actual rapes by Hamas.

They refuse to interview people who can actually answer questions legitimately in Arabic such as Yosef Hadad since that would let their audience receive unfiltered truth.

Re:Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices by Amir_A on Sunday May 05, 2024 @10:25PM (#40270578)
Referencing rape propaganda that has been thoroughly debunked makes me wonder whether AJ had a "false narrative" or just a different one.

The objective fact is that IDF soldiers have a well-documented history of internal and external sexual violence going back to the state's founding (by the soldiers' own confession often times, as these acts are rarely punished, even lionized in some settler communities). International humanitarian orgs have concluded there is reasonable evidence for such acts being committed in the current conflict as well (and with all the atrocities we've witnessed, is that really suprising to anyone?).

That you seem unaware of these facts is exactly why we need freedom of press.

Re:Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices by cooloo on Sunday May 05, 2024 @10:51PM (#40270709)
Repeating lies don't make them true. Palestinians use rape to terrorizing women's, did al Gezira report it?
Re:Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices by klyrs on Monday May 06, 2024 @01:19AM (#40271363)
Not every news source need report on every story. Especially in times of war, it's important to read every side's coverage of both themselves and the other side.
Re:Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices by runarberg on Monday May 06, 2024 @12:59PM (#40276747)
> Did Al Jazeera report on it?

Yes, yes they did:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/4/reasonable-grounds-t...

Re:Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices by arp242 on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @01:38AM (#40282699)
> Palestinians use rape to terrorizing women's, did al Gezira report it?

Replace "Palestinians" with "Jews" in that sentence. It's pretty racist innit? Please be more careful.

Re:Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices by invalidname on Sunday May 05, 2024 @11:18PM (#40270842)
That is nonsense. The sexual assault by Hamas is as proven a fact as any can be. Some people tried to debunk it while ignoring quite a lot of evidence: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-04-18/ty-article-ma...

I'm no fan of the settlers but they are deeply religious and won't even talk about sex with their own wives, let alone rape. The idea is deeply abhorrent in Jewish communities. There's no such documentation of any rape at scale. Accusations are easy to make with no supporting evidence whatsoever.

OTOH there are many well documented cases of soldiers doing bad things to Palestinians and getting jail time for that. There's a lot of evidence about settlers doing bad stuff. These sort of lies pollute the objective truth to force a narrative of false equivalency where facts don't matter.

Re:Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices by downWidOutaFite on Monday May 06, 2024 @01:25AM (#40271388)
Some choice quotes from your Haarez link:

"However, at Shura Base, to which most of the bodies were taken for purposes of identification, there were five forensic pathologists at work. In that capacity, they also examined bodies that arrived completely or partially naked in order to examine the possibility of rape. According to a source knowledgeable about the details, there were no signs on any of those bodies attesting to sexual relations having taken place or of mutilation of genitalia."

"200 bodies were documented. These teams did not document a single case of sexual assault or cases of genital mutilation. "

"the intelligence material collected by the police and the intelligence bodies, including footage from terrorists' body cameras, does not contain visual documentation of any acts of rape themselves. "

Re:Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices by invalidname on Monday May 06, 2024 @01:40AM (#40271462)
That is very selective reading of the article ignoring some core facts. Forensic post mortem analysis can't be done on 1,400 bodies most of which were mutilated and many burned. There were just not enough experts available to do that work.

There are many testimonies. Including from the rapists themselves. According to Hamas's interpretation of the Quran rape is legitimate as part of Jihad.