Since you brought up the "cycle of violence" argument, I remember Shaun making an excellent video[1] on the topic and also addressing that specific talking point.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun
[1] The History of "Socialist" Zionism | Leftist Zionists did the Nakba & founded Israel https://youtu.be/ehp9PZo4UR0
Thanks!
Do you shoot back?
Did you just hesitate? A bullet just scraped your wife on the side of the leg. Hesitated again? Son just got a bullet in his arm.
You fire three bullets. The baby is dead and so is the intruder.
Are you in the wrong here?
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I'm not saying this is the same as what's happening in Israel and Gaza. But "always wrong", like many views on this conflict, is sorely lacking in nuance.
With thousands of Israelis and tens of thousands of Palestinians killed, ignoring nuance is disrespectful to their memories and will not lead to realistic progress.
Killing children is always wrong.
Yes, what was done is wrong. It might be justified, even forgivable. But it's still wrong.
In your example, yes. Reality is more complicated; that usually gives reasonable people room to disagree.
On the other hand, killing children is always wrong. Fucking stop it.