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Re:Car manufacturers break promise about sharing location da... by delichon on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @09:31AM (#40222950)
This kind of abuse will keep me driving and buying used cars far longer than I would otherwise. That means I'll be driving more with lower emission and safety standards. For me that's an ugly but good trade to evade making big brother my copilot. I don't know if there are enough like minded drivers to make this a large effect.
Re:Car manufacturers break promise about sharing location da... by mdp2021 on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @09:33AM (#40222980)
> I don't know if there are enough like minded drivers to make this a large effect

The disaster is that there has been a large enough component of buyers that did not care about the issue, and that had no idea of the possibility of the issue.

It created this perverse market together with many others.

Re:Car manufacturers break promise about sharing location da... by barbariangrunge on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @10:13AM (#40223521)
It’s not that people don’t care, it’s that they’re helpless
Re:Car manufacturers break promise about sharing location da... by olyjohn on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @03:21PM (#40228042)
No, they also don't care. Talk to most people. They literally don't care and will say things like "Well let them have the data, what will they do with it?" Especially when you save a few bucks with something like a "loyalty card."
Re:Car manufacturers break promise about sharing location da... by vannucci on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @10:06AM (#40223431)
I've been doing the same, my next car and hopefully my last will be an old Grand Marquis. I can fix it myself, no tracking, and just goes forever.
Re:Car manufacturers break promise about sharing location da... by mdp2021 on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @10:23AM (#40223668)
> I can fix it myself

If, if this disastrous piece of history ends up well, the reaction to it will be a market that demands repairability, vendor agnostic.

Among the circulating information about new vehicles is, for example, that * batteries may tend to drain in days and * a flat battery cannot be simply replaced or restarted: the car must be brought to its manufacturer's service premises. Evident absurdities like this could trigger a reaction, they should wake up people...

It could and should make people want to be able to fix their car themselves.

Re:Car manufacturers break promise about sharing location da... by czbond on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @09:40AM (#40223068)
See my post in this thread - but research if your desired car can have these modules bypassed with a fuse pull, or wire cut.
Re:Car manufacturers break promise about sharing location da... by huhuhu111 on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @12:44PM (#40225759)
your car must be at least 20 years old then?
Re:Car manufacturers break promise about sharing location da... by Finnucane on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @10:52AM (#40224097)
We recent;y let our 1999 Honda go, which we bought used in 2007. Our choice for a replacement was no replacement. We've been able to just go car-free. The current state and expense of car ownership just doesn't provide enough benefit to us to be worth it.
Re:Car manufacturers break promise about sharing location da... by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @09:45AM (#40223147)
If one were conspiracy-minded, "Cash for Clunkers" looks a lot more ominous in retrospect...