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Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by int_19h on Saturday April 27, 2024 @02:44PM (#40182371)
You know what cripples the effective exercise of reason more than any drug? Living in a society that is organized in extremely unreasonable ways, yet one has to accept and actively participate in it because that's the only way to keep on living. Perhaps start there when considering the reasons for drug use...
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by surfingdino on Saturday April 27, 2024 @05:56PM (#40183949)
Alternative societies are available worldwide, so... maybe try them?
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by int_19h on Saturday April 27, 2024 @06:07PM (#40184031)
The vast majority of people worldwide have no ability to move away from the society to which they are born, no matter how oppressive. I did immigrate away from my country of origin, and I am much better for it, but I was insanely privileged to have this opportunity, and many people whom I know from back there are not so lucky.
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by larksimian on Sunday April 28, 2024 @04:46AM (#40187041)
This is absurdly wrong. Most immigrants are poor people entering their new societies at the very bottom, not hipster digital nomads. Sometimes they are lower middle class in their own societies, but often they are pretty much at the bottom at home as well.

For whatever reason the west fails to successfully socialize an unacceptably large portion of the native born population.

Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by fragmede on Sunday April 28, 2024 @04:52AM (#40187079)
A train engineer with decades of experience moved to the US when the war in Ukraine started. The job she could get here was as a nanny, watching children in her extended community, and even that was half a favor.
Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by int_19h on Sunday April 28, 2024 @12:36PM (#40189786)
You need to consider the distinction between legal and illegal immigration for starters. Most legal immigrants are reasonably well off in their society of origin - enough so to afford the legal process (which is not cheap).

And yes, immigrants generally tend to end up lower on the social hierarchy in their new society as compared to the old one, but how is that relevant to what I wrote?

Re:British Columbia to recriminalize use of drugs in public ... by surfingdino on Sunday April 28, 2024 @12:50PM (#40189887)
> For whatever reason the west fails to successfully socialize an unacceptably large portion of the native born population.

Part of the reason for that is protection and promotion of freedoms of individuals, which means that we expect the society to stay away from our lives, because we did try various forms of state and church hierarchies running our lives and we did not like it. If you come to the West or are born here learn what it is about and decide how you want to live your life. The same people complaining about the society not caring for all are those who wanted the society to leave them alone.