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Re:GM collects driver behavior data then sells access to ins... by MikeTheGreat on Friday April 26, 2024 @10:14AM (#40169707)
Serious question: how does one find out if a given car (make/model) has that stuff in it?

I'm kinda-sorta thinking about replacing my 2006 car, maybe. The last time I bought a car I definitely didn't have to worry about it spying on me :)

Re:GM collects driver behavior data then sells access to ins... by mortos on Friday April 26, 2024 @10:31AM (#40169861)
It's a bad faith argument. I'm not as familiar with the other markets, but this would mean avoiding all Japanese cars. Which is a bad idea if you also want a reliable car and/or value.

I'm just familiar with the data collection and the flow of data to insurance companies for JDM cars. A quick look at an EFF article and you should probably also avoid every car manufacturer.

Re:GM collects driver behavior data then sells access to ins... by jorts on Friday April 26, 2024 @10:59AM (#40170225)
Please elaborate on issues with Japanese cars.
Re:GM collects driver behavior data then sells access to ins... by wil421 on Friday April 26, 2024 @11:27AM (#40170636)
They sell all your driving data.
Re:GM collects driver behavior data then sells access to ins... by kube-system on Friday April 26, 2024 @11:30AM (#40170685)
Mine doesn't go to LexisNexis like the GM data does, at least. I checked.
Re:GM collects driver behavior data then sells access to ins... by wil421 on Friday April 26, 2024 @11:32AM (#40170701)
Luckily for my I’m not sure Jeep does it. Pretty sure my wife’s BMW sends everything short of audio/video recordings back to home.
Re:GM collects driver behavior data then sells access to ins... by mortos on Friday April 26, 2024 @02:19PM (#40172494)
As the other guy said, the data is sold.

Toyota Motor Insurance Services, Inc. (TMIS) collects the data from Subaru, Mazda, and Toyota. I don't believe Honda does, looks like they go through a different data broker. TMIS also gives the data to other companies that create metrics and ML models for insurance companies.