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Re:The AI Revolution Is Crushing Thousands of Languages by empath-nirvana on Thursday April 25, 2024 @09:30AM (#40157322)
> Recently, Bonaventure Dossou learned of an alarming tendency in a popular AI model. The program described Fon—a language spoken by Dossou’s mother and millions of others in Benin and neighboring countries—as “a fictional language.” This result, which I replicated, is not unusual.

While I have no doubt that _some_ model did this, the entire premise of the article is BS:

User What can you tell me about the language Fon ChatGPT The Fon language, known locally as Fongbe, is part of the Niger-Congo language family and is primarily spoken in Benin and Nigeria, particularly by the Fon people. It's one of the major languages of Benin, spoken by about 1.7 million people there. Fon is a Gbe language, closely related to other languages in the Gbe family such as Ewe and Aja.

Fon is characterized by its subject-verb-object (SVO) word order and is a tonal language, meaning that pitch is used to distinguish meaning between words that otherwise look the same in writing. This feature is common among West African languages. Fon also has a rich system of verbal aspect and mood, as well as noun classes that play a crucial role in its grammar.

Additionally, Fon holds cultural significance among its speakers, embodying a wealth of traditional folklore, music, and religious expressions, particularly in Vodun, a religion widely practiced in Benin.

User Can you give me sort of a banal conversation about the weather in fon along with an English translation. ChatGPT Certainly! Here's a simple conversation about the weather in Fon, followed by the English translation:

Fon A: Kú dé ji nú wɛ? B: Ɛ, ji ná sɔ á. Wɛ mɛ́ tɔn nú á?

A: Mɛ wɛ é lɛ ji gblɔ. Mɛ́ nɔ kán nú ji ná tɔn? B: Ɛé, é ná tɔn gán.

English Translation A: How's the weather today? B: Yes, it's very hot. Do you like it?

A: I prefer when it's cool. Will it cool down later? B: Yes, it will cool down by evening.

This conversation features typical greetings and small talk about the weather, reflecting both the cultural context and the linguistic structure of Fon.

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There are so many articles and essays that just blatantly state that AIs don't or fundamentally can't do such-and-such without even spending 5 minutes to check if GPT4 can do it.

Re:The AI Revolution Is Crushing Thousands of Languages by xyst on Thursday April 25, 2024 @09:50AM (#40157581)
Have to pay $20 just to try it out.

I tried the same in 3.5, and it’s not reliable. I queried it to translate the conversation you generated and it failed to recognize it as “fon” and instead reported it as “yoruba”

Re:The AI Revolution Is Crushing Thousands of Languages by BlueTemplar on Thursday April 25, 2024 @10:13AM (#40157857)
They seem to be a decently powerful journalist, if they aren't even willing to spend $20 for the investigation, aren't they abusing their power ?
Re:The AI Revolution Is Crushing Thousands of Languages by GaggiX on Thursday April 25, 2024 @10:12AM (#40157852)
>Have to pay $20 just to try it out.

No you don't, API are available to the public and there are plenty of frontends, the API are convenient even you use GPT-4 often.

Prompting GPT-4 would have cost 0.01$.

Re:The AI Revolution Is Crushing Thousands of Languages by BlueTemplar on Thursday April 25, 2024 @10:14AM (#40157865)
Interesting, any good sources about interfacing with them ?
Re:The AI Revolution Is Crushing Thousands of Languages by GaggiX on Thursday April 25, 2024 @10:21AM (#40157948)
Get your OpenAI API key and then use it on one of the hundreds of open source frontends available, such as: https://github.com/lobehub/lobe-chat
Re:The AI Revolution Is Crushing Thousands of Languages by BlueTemplar on Saturday April 27, 2024 @01:21PM (#40181726)
Oh, so you still need to create an OpenAI account ? (Also, I guess I should have asked for non-platform sources...)