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Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by Golden_Wind123 on Wednesday April 24, 2024 @11:29PM (#40153087)
I also seem to think Facebook fanning the flames of an insurrection is a greater threat than whatever dubious vaguely defined impact TikTok has had.
Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by budududuroiu on Wednesday April 24, 2024 @11:35PM (#40153124)
You can hold Facebook legally accountable in the US (whether you will or not is another question). You can’t hold TikTok legally accountable.
Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by ramblenode on Thursday April 25, 2024 @01:40AM (#40153839)
> You can’t hold TikTok legally accountable.

Sure you can. You follow the law or you are banned from doing business. This law just skipped the first part because the authors didn't want to write any actual regulations.

Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by budududuroiu on Thursday April 25, 2024 @01:47AM (#40153889)
Why wait until TikTok breaks the law to ban them? Banning an app after it’s been used for nefarious reasons to either spread propaganda or incite chaos in the upcoming elections is too late. It’s like saying “let’s not patch a zero day we found because no one has abused it”.

TikTok being owner by Bytedance means you don’t have who to prosecute for misdeeds, besides some fall guy.

Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by ramblenode on Thursday April 25, 2024 @02:27AM (#40154132)
> Why wait until TikTok breaks the law to ban them?

Why wait until a homeless guy steals some bread to throw him in jail?

The foundation of the rule of law is that the law applies to everyone equally, not arbitrarily. That includes a presumption of no wrongdoing and due process.

It should be mentioned that TikTok already has its full US data and source code audited by Oracle, a level of scrutiny higher than any of the domestic tech companies. Combined with the FBI and NSA watching them like a hawk, if they were breaking the law, it would be old news by now.

Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by budududuroiu on Thursday April 25, 2024 @02:33AM (#40154172)
Didn’t know the homeless guy is a rising superpower with imperialist aspirations. Didn’t know the homeless guy is actively attempting to destabilise the US in order to become the new hegemon.

It’s not about the data or the code. Data brokers exist everywhere, it’s about a platform with reach to the eyeballs of 170 million users controlled by an adversary state.

You can’t use “foundation of the rule of law” wrt an actor that blatantly disregards rule of law.

Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by b-side on Thursday April 25, 2024 @02:26AM (#40154128)
Interesting that you think breaking the laws is justification for banning a Platform. I wonder how the US would feel about the EU banning every last US tech company for the plethora of violations.
Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by budududuroiu on Thursday April 25, 2024 @02:28AM (#40154136)
Last I checked the EU and US are not in the pre- stages of hot war.
Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by fragmede on Thursday April 25, 2024 @02:31AM (#40154150)
we're not? we're spinning up production of 150mm shells and other pre stages from my pov
Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by budududuroiu on Thursday April 25, 2024 @02:36AM (#40154193)
Are you trolling?
Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by BeFlatXIII on Thursday April 25, 2024 @08:16AM (#40156564)
Are you?
Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by fragmede on Thursday April 25, 2024 @01:16PM (#40160321)
I'm not. from my POV, we are spinning up the economy for war. we're already in world War III, we're just waiting for someone to officially declare it.
Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by budududuroiu on Thursday April 25, 2024 @01:30PM (#40160544)
US defence spending is still below its 2010s level. Besides, you mentioned EU banning US apps. Last I checked, with some exceptions, all EU nations are in NATO, and directly procure weapons from the US.

It’s absurd to compare banning a Chinese-owned app to EU banning US apps.

Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by fragmede on Thursday April 25, 2024 @03:33PM (#40161985)
the EU banning apps wasn't me i don't think
Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by bjourne on Thursday April 25, 2024 @04:24AM (#40154897)
That is false. Companies can be held legally accountable in the US regardless of whether they are owned by Americans or not.