This bill will force google/apple to remove the tiktok app store listing. It's as good as dead after that with no updates/new installs.

give a dog a bad name and it's as good as dead.

Nah, people are too addicted. They'll follow steps to install an apk, even if they're nontechnical.

I bet you that would become a thing at school, getting the geekier kids to "install tiktok 4 me pls"

You underestimate how many people in the U.S. have iPhones.

Telling a business it's free to do something if there's no profit involved is like telling a man he's free to drink whiskey if he can jump over the moon.

Here comes Elon with another hold my beer moment. Thank god he already wasted billions on Twitter.

> China blocks access to Google. Whatever you want to call what the TikTok bill does, it is not the same as what China does.

China does way more than that. China forces all companies that wish to do business in China to host their data in China in a way that ensures the CCP has complete access to it.

It boggles the mind how some anonymous accounts try to attack the US for interfering with a Chinese company doing business in the US, particularly one which is a notorious security hole, but leave out the fact that CCP's China goes well beyond as a matter of policy.

it boggles the mind that everyone is complaining about tiktok and yet, each of the big cloud providers have data centers in china, hey but dont worry guys, they're physically separated honest

If you start a business in the US and you're only adding China DC's specifically for Chinese customers, I don't see why you'd invest more time and money in connecting the CCP to your US DC's.

It would make more sense that Chinese customers would want to host their data in the US not vice versa, and in that case you would treat them the same as American customers in American data centers with the same security in place.

It's the cheaper solution, caters to all customer needs, and doesn't risk your customers' faith.

I can't think of any reason why they wouldn't separate them.

Do you have some reason to believe they aren't or are you just guessing that they wouldn't take precautions? Because in this case, the precautions are actually the easier topology to build, I think.

It boggles my mind how people look at China's censorship regime and think, "wow we are so far behind in the censorship race, we must move in that direction and start banning things ASAP"

The goal is not censorship, this is completely obvious.

The US is doing great at achieving this non-goal then.

The U.S. might be doing that, you just don't know because that kind of thing comes with gag orders making it a federal offense to even reveal that any such thing is occurring.

I'm absolutely not defending China's authoritarian regime and overall the U.S. isn't seems less bad, but at the same time it's a bit rich to pretend the U.S. doesn't do the same if it matters.

China passed data law after US and Europe, actually very similar law.

Also China does not stop companies to do business with Facebook and Google, if you look up numbers from Facebook and Google, a big chunk ad revenue would come from Chinese companies.