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Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by cogman10 on Wednesday April 24, 2024 @12:45PM (#40146714)
What sort of adversarial actions have they taken against the US?

The most recent one I can think of is responding with tariffs against the US after we put tariffs on their solar exports.

Beyond that... the Korean war I think was the last time we were any sort of direct/semi direct conflict with them. And Taiwan is the touchiest aspect we have with them.

Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by edm0nd on Wednesday April 24, 2024 @02:06PM (#40147686)
Chinese backed threat actors have basically hacked into every major Fortune 50 tech company and stolen R&D.
Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by pphysch on Wednesday April 24, 2024 @02:28PM (#40147912)
Where is the evidence that they are backed by the Chinese government?
Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by heinternets on Wednesday April 24, 2024 @03:36PM (#40148610)
There's articles all over the place about it if you look. For example:

https://www.reuters.com/technology/cybersecurity/apt31-chine...

Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by pphysch on Thursday April 25, 2024 @10:45AM (#40158211)
Articles and headlines themselves do not constitute evidence. All we get from your Reuters article is an allegation from the US Government (of Iraq WMD fame), and a denial from the Chinese Government. It's hearsay not evidence. Where is the evidence?
Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by edm0nd on Wednesday April 24, 2024 @09:03PM (#40151985)
All over the place if you actually care but I somewhat doubt that.
Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by pphysch on Thursday April 25, 2024 @10:46AM (#40158221)
If actual evidence were all over the place, you wouldn't be making this comment.

The fact is the accurately attributing expert cybercrime is extremely difficult and anyone that implies otherwise is making a fool out of you.

Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by goliathDown on Wednesday April 24, 2024 @12:55PM (#40146872)
What type of company does China keep? Last I checked, they were pretty buddy-buddy with Russia, and North korea on an estranged leash. If we know other countries fund terrorist organizations for intent of undermining western influence, is it that big of a stretch to say China is probably doing the same thing?

You can't use 'direct conflict' as a measure in this type of game. Russia has done damning harm to american politics, but its not clear how to measure that effect.

Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by eureka-belief on Wednesday April 24, 2024 @01:02PM (#40146965)
Large scale hacking of US companies, IP theft, brinksmanship regarding issue of Taiwan (backed by real incentive to follow through) where have you been?
Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by caeril on Wednesday April 24, 2024 @01:44PM (#40147471)
> Large scale hacking of US companies

This is a solid point. What most people don't get is that despite the enormous investment the CIA, NSA, and DoD Sigint have made into their offensive security teams, most of their budget is dedicated to Friday team-building activities, Bowling Nights, and Foosball tables. The US definitely does not hack anybody.

"Everyone but FVEY are the super evil hackerz" is a childish, head-in-the-sand position to hold in the modern geopolitical climate. Everyone is hacking everyone, and China is not some sort of unique Bad Guy in this regard.

Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by ryandvm on Wednesday April 24, 2024 @02:33PM (#40147963)
Agreed, but if you're going to play whataboutism, then you surely understand that China does not allow US companies unfettered idealogical access to their populace, so why should we grant them as much?
Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by j0ba on Wednesday April 24, 2024 @01:04PM (#40146978)
I mean.. are you really not aware that the US and China have an adversarial relationship? Both countries embedding spies, industrial espionage, trade wars, soft power projection, etc etc. Power is a zero-sum game.
Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by axus on Wednesday April 24, 2024 @01:48PM (#40147509)
What kind of power do you mean? The military, economic, and industrial power of China and United States have both been increasing, it doesn't look like "zero-sum".

US and China choose to act this way, but they could stop harassing each other without affecting their own power bases.