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Re:The man who killed Google Search by jokoon on Tuesday April 23, 2024 @06:21PM (#40138051)
simplicity is always the recipe for success, unfortunately, most engineers are drawn to complexity like moth to fire

if they were unable to do some AB testing between a ML search and a non-ML search, they deserve their failure 100%

there are not enough engineers blowing the whistle against ML

Re:The man who killed Google Search by ants_everywhere on Tuesday April 23, 2024 @08:25PM (#40139005)
I definitely think the ML search results are much worse. But complexity or not, strategically it's an advantage for the company to use ML in production over a long period of time so they can develop organizational expertise in it.

It would have been a worse outcome for Google if they had stuck to their no ML stance and then had Bing take over search because they were a generation behind in technology.

Re:The man who killed Google Search by 1024core on Tuesday April 23, 2024 @09:49PM (#40139537)
> most engineers are drawn to complexity like moth to fire

Unfortunately, Google evaluates employees by the complexity of their work. "Demonstrates complexity" is a checkbox on promo packets, from what I've heard.

Naturally, every engineer will try to over-complicate things just so they can get the raises and promos. You get what you value.

Re:The man who killed Google Search by Terr_ on Wednesday April 24, 2024 @01:46PM (#40147483)
I've heard a similar critique for Google launching new products and then letting them die, where it's really driven by their policies and practice around what gets someone a promotion and what doesn't.
Re:The man who killed Google Search by broknbottle on Wednesday April 24, 2024 @10:28PM (#40152654)
Yep, promo doc bs that will be immediately abandoned as soon as the promo goes through in X quarter.
Re:The man who killed Google Search by nothercastle on Wednesday April 24, 2024 @01:52PM (#40147562)
Engineers love simplicity but management hates it and won’t promote people that strive towards it. A simple system is the most complex system to design.