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Re:Phi-3 Technical Report by crakenzak on Monday April 22, 2024 @11:12PM (#40128060)
Can’t wait to see some Phi-3 fine tunes! Will be testing this out locally, such a small model that I can run it without quantization.

Feels incredible to be living in a time with such neck breaking innovations. What are chances we’ll have a <100B parameter GPT4/Claude Opus model in the next 5 years?

Re:Phi-3 Technical Report by Deverauxi on Monday April 22, 2024 @11:49PM (#40128273)
5 years? 5 years is a millennia these days.

We’ll have small local models beating gpt-4/Claude opus in 2024. We already have sub 100b models trading blows with former gpt-4 models, and the future is racing toward us. All these little breakthroughs are piling up.

Re:Phi-3 Technical Report by refulgentis on Tuesday April 23, 2024 @12:16AM (#40128446)
Absolutely not on the first one. Not even close.
Re:Phi-3 Technical Report by ashirviskas on Tuesday April 23, 2024 @12:48PM (#40134042)
Why not? There's still 7 months left for breakthroughs.
Re:Phi-3 Technical Report by refulgentis on Tuesday April 23, 2024 @02:38PM (#40135539)
Small leaves wiggle room, but it's extremely unlikely trad small, <= 7B, will get there this year even on these evals.

UX matching is a whole different matter and needs a lot of work: Worked heavily with Llama 8B over last days, and Phi 3 today, and the Q+A benchmarks don't tell the full story. Ex. It's nigh impossible to get Llama _70_B to answer in JSON; when Phi sees RAG from search it goes off inventing new RAG material and a new question.

Re:Phi-3 Technical Report by stavros on Monday April 22, 2024 @11:39PM (#40128209)
Is it released?
Re:Phi-3 Technical Report by bugglebeetle on Tuesday April 23, 2024 @12:45AM (#40128595)
We already do. It’s called LLama 3 70B Instruct.
Re:Phi-3 Technical Report by vitorgrs on Tuesday April 23, 2024 @03:28AM (#40129462)
Llama 3 is awful in non-English. 95% of their training data is in English....

GPT is still the king when talking about multiple languages/knowledge.

Re:Phi-3 Technical Report by nl on Tuesday April 23, 2024 @01:37AM (#40128854)
> What are chances we’ll have a <100B parameter GPT4/Claude Opus model in the next 5 years?

In 5 years time we'll have adaptive compute and the idea of talking about the parameter count of a model will seem as quaint as talking about the cylinder capacity of a jet engine.

Re:Phi-3 Technical Report by regularfry on Tuesday April 23, 2024 @08:53AM (#40131403)
It feels like it's going to be closer than that. People always forget that GPT4 and Opus have the advantage of behind-the-curtain tool use that you just can't see, so you don't know how much of a knowledge or reasoning leg-up they're getting from their internal tooling ecosystem. They're not really directly comparable to a raw LLM downloaded from HF.

What we need is a standardised open harness for open source LLMs to sit in that gives them both access to tools and the ability to write their own, and that's (comparatively speaking) a much easier job than training up another raw frontier LLM: it's just code, and they can write a lot of it.