Re:Household Size and the Housing Stock
by seanmcdirmid on Saturday April 20, 2024 @12:14AM
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I looked at some old houses in Seattle with basements, and they were incredibly depressing. New homes are mostly built without basements up here, and I don’t think anyone actually misses them.
Finished basements without egress up to code can’t count in the sq ft of the listed properties.
These also don’t exist in the south since there’s no need to get below a frost line.
Whether not that's true, it doesn't explain the visible insanity of new suburbs
Re:Household Size and the Housing Stock
by thatfrenchguy on Friday April 19, 2024 @09:23PM
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No basements in western states :)
My family lived from 1969 through 2006 in a house in Colorado with a basement. My stepmother--who grew up in a region with cooler summers--ight have perished of heat exhaustion but for the basement. What anyone in particular had outside our neighborhood, I can't say; but I think that basements were not unusual in Denver.
Re:Household Size and the Housing Stock
by makeitshine on Friday April 19, 2024 @09:29PM
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I've lived in Oregon, Washington, Nevada and Colorado and I've seen and lived in plenty of places with basements.
Re:Household Size and the Housing Stock
by lotsofpulp on Saturday April 20, 2024 @06:44AM
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On flat land, basements are a function of home (and land) price. In places where the frost line is not very deep, a basement is a luxury. One of the most expensive parts of the house is laying the foundation, and not building a basement is far cheaper than building a basement.
If the frost line is lower, then a basement is very little extra cost since you are digging deeper and laying more concrete anyway.
If you are building on a hill, then making a 3 story house is also very little extra cost.
3/6 of the houses I spent a lot of time in as a kid had finished basements.
Anecdotally, finished basements are practically required if there is any sort of hill, which fairly common in the west, whereas they're likely to be absent for houses built on the floodplain.
The house in 1950 had a unfinished basement and was listed at 1200 sq ft. They finished the basement and later sold it as 2400. The difference is a couple pallets of drywall.