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Re:The Curse of Monkey Island by Gormo on Friday April 19, 2024 @04:10PM (#40091430)
Is that really true, though? I can't think of any significant examples of games from the '80s or '90s that involved "in-groups punching... on out-groups", unless the out-groups in question were space aliens, nazis, fantasy monsters, hostile AIs, or the like.

Monkey Island is an absolute classic, of course, but this particular point feels almost like a retcon of present-day cultural assumptions into a specific context in the past where the objects of this criticism weren't really quite so present.

Re:The Curse of Monkey Island by cess11 on Friday April 19, 2024 @05:10PM (#40091935)
Duke Nukem and Shadow Warrior would be pretty obvious examples. Someone else mentioned Leisure Suit Larry.

I'd like to mention Samantha Fox Strip Poker as well, though it's a bit more subtle than "punching".

Re:The Curse of Monkey Island by ertian on Friday April 19, 2024 @07:44PM (#40093099)
This is true, but those games were noted at the time for being crude and offensive. There was actually quite a bit of dislike for all of the above, and they were seen at the time as the exception rather that the norm.

I can think of the occasional bad-taste joke in an adventure game, but I don't think it was ever as pervasive as is implied.

Re:The Curse of Monkey Island by cess11 on Saturday April 20, 2024 @01:36AM (#40095079)
That's just some very obvious examples. It's not the only examples.
Re:The Curse of Monkey Island by DarkNova6 on Friday April 19, 2024 @08:12PM (#40093258)
Duke Nukem is an obvious parody. And most ironically, the franchise always seen has more female fans than comparable genre games.
Re:The Curse of Monkey Island by cess11 on Saturday April 20, 2024 @01:34AM (#40095067)
What do you mean? Would parody exclude the possibility of down-punching? Imitative mocking is always OK?
Re:The Curse of Monkey Island by DarkNova6 on Saturday April 20, 2024 @10:28AM (#40097592)
You would need to be more specific than that.
Re:The Curse of Monkey Island by danielheath on Sunday April 21, 2024 @03:55AM (#40103938)
EG robocop showed lots of police brutality, but it wasn't a movie about how great and normal police brutality was.
Re:The Curse of Monkey Island by npteljes on Saturday April 20, 2024 @03:01PM (#40099981)
I don't think fans indicate acceptability. For example, serial killers have fans.
Re:The Curse of Monkey Island by DarkNova6 on Sunday April 21, 2024 @09:48AM (#40105777)
Your argument being?
Re:The Curse of Monkey Island by Gormo on Monday April 22, 2024 @02:50PM (#40117508)
It's not even a question of it "indicating" acceptability -- being a fan of something is "acceptance" of it.
Re:The Curse of Monkey Island by kingforaday on Friday April 19, 2024 @07:08PM (#40092907)
Hail to the king, baby.
Re:The Curse of Monkey Island by bdowling on Saturday April 20, 2024 @01:22AM (#40095023)
We can't truly exalt our enlightened present and future without denigrating the past.
Re:The Curse of Monkey Island by cryptnotic on Saturday April 20, 2024 @05:02AM (#40095902)
“Who controls the past, controls the future: who controls the present, controls the past.”