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Re:Ubuntu 24.04 yields a 20% advantage over Windows 11 on Ry... by passwordoops on Thursday April 18, 2024 @04:58PM (#40080642)
On my dual boot machine:

-Windows 11: 60-240 seconds before I am connected to WiFi and can open a browser to my home page

-Ubuntu 23: no delay, it just starts.

Re:Ubuntu 24.04 yields a 20% advantage over Windows 11 on Ry... by jandrese on Thursday April 18, 2024 @05:01PM (#40080668)
Your Windows box has a bad driver or something. That's an excessively long boot time even for slow hardware.
Re:Ubuntu 24.04 yields a 20% advantage over Windows 11 on Ry... by zdragnar on Thursday April 18, 2024 @05:08PM (#40080742)
Similar, though less experience here. Connecting to wifi (compared to Linux) feels like it takes forever, though I doubt I ever experience more than a 30 second delay.
Re:Ubuntu 24.04 yields a 20% advantage over Windows 11 on Ry... by theogravity on Thursday April 18, 2024 @06:25PM (#40081394)
I dual boot as well and don't have any delays on either Win 11 or Ubuntu 23. I'm running a high-end Ryzen 7950x though with a PCIe 5 SSD and 64 GB of ram.

My long boot times are with POST-phase DDR5 memory training. Takes around a minute before I can get to the bootloader. I have tried many BIOS settings to try to cut that part down but haven't been successful (usually results in a crash).

Another datapoint, I also have a Framework Ryzen 13 and I don't recall seeing delays for my dual boot setup either to Win 11 or Ubuntu 23. But, I think I do sometimes have DDR5 training lag times as it's also a 64 GB system.

Re:Ubuntu 24.04 yields a 20% advantage over Windows 11 on Ry... by SushiHippie on Thursday April 18, 2024 @09:43PM (#40082665)
I basically have the same setup (7950x, 64GB of ram, but pcie 4 nvme ssd).

Without EXPO turned on the length of the POST-phase is basically zero when I turn on memory context restore.

But with EXPO turned on my PC basically won't boot (as in, I'm too impatient to wait more than an hour).

So I just keep EXPO turned of, as 4800Mhz vs 6000Mhz RAM in practice doesn't make much of a difference (for most tasks).

EDIT: nevermind, I just tried enabling EXPO again, and it seems like the memory context restore option now even works with EXPO enabled, so POST is still very short. I'll keep it on and see how it goes.

Re:Ubuntu 24.04 yields a 20% advantage over Windows 11 on Ry... by theogravity on Thursday April 18, 2024 @11:00PM (#40083065)
I def use EXPO at 5600 I think and have tried context restore without success; but I also have custom power limits set on the CPU to reduce the TDP but I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it.
Re:Ubuntu 24.04 yields a 20% advantage over Windows 11 on Ry... by SushiHippie on Friday April 19, 2024 @12:00AM (#40083313)
I also lowered the TDP, but I just used the "eco mode" that my motherboard provides, which either lowers the TDP to 105W or 65W.

I also read somewhere that one needs to POST multiple times for the context restore to kick in, which could make sense in my case, as I left it on with EXPO disabled and now it does not memory train any more even with EXPO disabled (at least the POST screen is only visible for like a second and then my OS boots up).

But when I set up my system I spent much time fiddling around with the BIOS, so I'm not 100% sure if it is memory context restore that solved this in my case.

Re:Ubuntu 24.04 yields a 20% advantage over Windows 11 on Ry... by taspeotis on Thursday April 18, 2024 @04:59PM (#40080653)
Windows 11 isn’t that slow. Are you booting from a HDD?
Re:Ubuntu 24.04 yields a 20% advantage over Windows 11 on Ry... by loloquwowndueo on Thursday April 18, 2024 @05:08PM (#40080740)
He did say he’s dual booting, so whichever the boot media is, it would affect both OSes equally.
Re:Ubuntu 24.04 yields a 20% advantage over Windows 11 on Ry... by taspeotis on Thursday April 18, 2024 @05:57PM (#40081183)
You can boot from different disks.
Re:Ubuntu 24.04 yields a 20% advantage over Windows 11 on Ry... by rarafael on Thursday April 18, 2024 @05:11PM (#40080778)
I believe this is likely the case. Can't say for windows 11, but windows 10 (and specifically Windows Defender) would hammer my hdd so hard the entire os would become unusable for minutes at a time
Re:Ubuntu 24.04 yields a 20% advantage over Windows 11 on Ry... by Aerroon on Thursday April 18, 2024 @05:19PM (#40080834)
I have a large folder with stuff. It took over 30 seconds to open that folder because of windows defender. Then it would work fine for a bit, but that didn't last. I had to start excluding large folders from windows defender to actually use the computer.
Re:Ubuntu 24.04 yields a 20% advantage over Windows 11 on Ry... by t-sauer on Thursday April 18, 2024 @05:02PM (#40080677)
From which point on? After login? I guess a fair comparison would need the exact same reference point before the OS is involved, e.g. once post is done or you pressed the power button.
Re:Ubuntu 24.04 yields a 20% advantage over Windows 11 on Ry... by TinkersW on Thursday April 18, 2024 @05:09PM (#40080750)
I have a duel boot with windows 10/linux mint, and for me windows boots faster.

Also there is no delay with wifi, once it starts that all works immediately on both OS's.