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Re:Chemists Invent Drugs and Drugs Save Lives by aa-jv on Thursday April 18, 2024 @06:19AM (#40074665)
Chemists also enslave people with drugs.

There's not an addictive substance out there that wasn't created by a chemist for the purpose.

This "noble scientist" narrative is dangerous. It implies that technically/scientifically competent individuals are 'good guys', when this is simply not the case.

Re:Chemists Invent Drugs and Drugs Save Lives by defrost on Thursday April 18, 2024 @06:27AM (#40074717)
Alcohol abuse predates Alchemy, alcohol regularly makes "most addictive substances" lists.

Elephants get drunk on alchol w/out the intervention of a chemist, just plain old natural fermentation.

I understand your point, but there is that one blindingly obvious screaming exception that's a, ahh, elephant in the room.

Re:Chemists Invent Drugs and Drugs Save Lives by aa-jv on Thursday April 18, 2024 @06:37AM (#40074778)
Whoever discovered alcohol was the first chemist. Whoever got drunk on it, the first addict. They could be the same.
Re:Chemists Invent Drugs and Drugs Save Lives by defrost on Thursday April 18, 2024 @07:31AM (#40075040)
> Whoever discovered alcohol was the first chemist.

How does drinking|eating naturally fermented fruit or grains make someone a chemist?

You understand that elephants "discovered" alcohol also, does that make elephants chemists?

Even recreating the natural process on demand later on barely rates as "chemistry" given the lack of any need to understand the process.

Re:Chemists Invent Drugs and Drugs Save Lives by vibrio on Thursday April 18, 2024 @07:37AM (#40075094)
I think the point of that reply was that There was no “one moment” alcohol and drunkenness was discovered. It’s been there since fermentation and cognition evolved-before any intent was possible.
Re:Chemists Invent Drugs and Drugs Save Lives by LM358 on Thursday April 18, 2024 @08:38AM (#40075560)
Opium, cannabis et. al. would like a word with you...