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Re:Why airplane bathrooms have ashtrays by ars on Tuesday May 22, 2012 @01:51AM (#4006434)
Lets do the math then: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=785+millibars+*+876+cub...

Result: Each air change costs around .62 of a gallon of gas (assuming perfect efficiency). Or around $2.50 - let's call it $10 to account for inefficiency. In contrast it costs around $10,000 per hour (not including salary) to fly a large plane.

Saying they don't circulate air to save money is ridiculous.

Re:Why airplane bathrooms have ashtrays by hasker on Tuesday May 22, 2012 @02:26AM (#4006524)
Some would say the same thing about removing in-flight beverage service or tossing blankets, pillows, and airline magazines to save weights, yet airlines do it. I think it is equally ridiculous to care about such costs, especially at the cost of focusing management away from the top line, but using logic to suggest it does not happen may not get you far in this case.
Re:Why airplane bathrooms have ashtrays by Arelius on Tuesday May 22, 2012 @12:36PM (#4008578)
Is it to save weight, or to save other costs around maintaining blankets and pillows?
Re:Why airplane bathrooms have ashtrays by megablast on Tuesday May 22, 2012 @03:39AM (#4006693)
Some airlines make just over $100 per flight. Not per person per flight, PER FLIGHT. They are looking for every saving they can get.

You can work this out my looking at an an airlines profits, and how many flights they did a year.

Re:Why airplane bathrooms have ashtrays by encoderer on Tuesday May 22, 2012 @02:17PM (#4009075)
Life is complicated. So are airlines.

In this case, airlines are a business designed not to have runaway profit. The unions are very powerful. They know how much money the airline is making a demand large percentages of it. They leave a nominal profit for key investors but shareholders as a whole are regularly left out. In fact, if you look at the entire history of commercial flight, the industry is break-even.

That's not a fluke. If costs were higher, unions would get a smaller cut. If costs were lower, unions would take more.

Philip Greenspun has some great writing on this, as well as the old, shortlived but fantastic Enplaned blog.

Re:Why airplane bathrooms have ashtrays by tb on Tuesday May 22, 2012 @09:47PM (#4011079)
You are referring, of course, to this excellent (and somewhat frightening) article: http://philip.greenspun.com/flying/unions-and-airlines
Re:Why airplane bathrooms have ashtrays by sopooneo on Tuesday May 22, 2012 @11:49PM (#4011447)
There was an episode of the podcast Planet Money where they claimed that the American Airline industry has, as a whole, actually lost money over the course of its existence. As in, overall, net financial loss.
Re:Why airplane bathrooms have ashtrays by ars on Tuesday May 22, 2012 @04:31AM (#4006892)
Maybe for small regional flights. My numbers where for huge 400-500 passenger planes.

By my calculations a smaller 70 passenger plane would use around 1/5 the energy per air change, and they typically fly for only an hour or two. So for an air change every half an hour it would cost them around $4 per flight (and that's assuming low efficiency). So $100 profit is still possible (although I have to say that that's amazing low, but I'll take your word for it).