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Re:Personal VPN Services are Snake-Oil by hn_throwaway_99 on Sunday April 14, 2024 @05:03PM (#40034458)
Yes, I was using a bit of hyperbole.

But that said, on this point I do agree with the author: privacy improvements from using a VPN are marginal for the average user due to the now widespread use of HTTPS. Yes, your ISP can see which domains you visit, but that's about it. I'm curious if there have been any successful lawsuits or prosecutions based solely on domain access logs.

Re:Personal VPN Services are Snake-Oil by RajT88 on Sunday April 14, 2024 @05:10PM (#40034504)
Unless you're using DNS over HTTPS or DNS over TLS. Then they can't.

Side question: Anyone know of a gateway or self-host service which supports DNS over HTTPS relay?

i.e. it will accept vanilla DNS requests, but if it needs to forward requests, it will only do so to DoH / DoT servers?

Re:Personal VPN Services are Snake-Oil by pgraf on Sunday April 14, 2024 @05:21PM (#40034590)
They can still deduce it from the TLS SNI unless the web server you access supports TLS 1.3 Encrypted Client Hello. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Name_Indication
Re:Personal VPN Services are Snake-Oil by jachee on Sunday April 14, 2024 @06:13PM (#40034943)
I do that with pihole.