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Re:Personal VPN Services are Snake-Oil by PlutoIsAPlanet on Sunday April 14, 2024 @04:08PM (#40034015)
An issue is that they're sold as a way to stop your ISP tracking what you're doing.

But why would I trust a random company with this information over an ISP, who yes aren't always angels, but at least are somewhat accountable.

Re:Personal VPN Services are Snake-Oil by moffkalast on Sunday April 14, 2024 @04:22PM (#40034131)
Furthermore, they use their VPN clients as proxies and sell access to their network to scrapers and botnetters. Usually the rule of thumb is that if you're not paying, you're the product, but in this case they manage to double dip. That's where the real funding comes from.

https://oxylabs.io

Re:Personal VPN Services are Snake-Oil by perplexa on Sunday April 14, 2024 @04:36PM (#40034258)
If they claim to be operating an ethical service one more time I might start to believe it.
Re:Personal VPN Services are Snake-Oil by Ekaros on Sunday April 14, 2024 @04:33PM (#40034234)
It is really question do you trust your ISP or do you trust your VPN provider? And if you are doing something your state might have interest in. Well VPN options might also be questionable. Either in some adjacent state, or other ways scrupulous...
Re:Personal VPN Services are Snake-Oil by SV_BubbleTime on Sunday April 14, 2024 @04:44PM (#40034314)
My ISP is Comcast and my VPN is Mullvlad.

Guess.

Re:Personal VPN Services are Snake-Oil by sss111 on Sunday April 14, 2024 @05:35PM (#40034700)
Mullvad and it's not even close haha
Re:Personal VPN Services are Snake-Oil by gruez on Sunday April 14, 2024 @04:45PM (#40034321)
>But why would I trust a random company with this information over an ISP, who yes aren't always angels, but at least are somewhat accountable.

ISPs often have captive markets and have enough political sway to grant them said captive markets. VPN companies have none of that, and live or die based on their reputation, so they arguably have more of an incentive to behave well. Meanwhile some ISPs have even admitted to selling your traffic for marketing purposes or are forced by the government to keep records. There's plenty of shady VPN companies out there, and not all ISPs are scummy and sell your info, but there's quite a bit of range between the scummiest ISP and the best VPN, and for a subset of people using VPNs definitely makes sense.

Re:Personal VPN Services are Snake-Oil by deno on Sunday April 14, 2024 @06:09PM (#40034913)
1) You can choose where in the world your traffic exits. 2) You can switch your VPN provider or even use/stack multiple and it’s easier than changing ISPs which encourages innovation. 3) ISPs and VPNs are regulated differently. In many if not most countries ISPs have to log and store certain PII.
Re:Personal VPN Services are Snake-Oil by eipi10_hn on Sunday April 14, 2024 @07:12PM (#40035349)
My ISP is from communist country and my VPN is Mullvad.

Guess.