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Re:Haunting photos of the bison extermination in 19th centur... by JohnMakin on Friday April 12, 2024 @02:27PM (#40016119)
> Referring to land the natives had inhabited for something like 15,000 years as "pristine" and "natural" is somewhat erasing their accomplishments, no?

Erm, no? Seems kind of racist to say otherwise? The plains indians entire culture revolved around preserving and respecting nature. And I'm pretty sure it's only theorized that the paleo-indians wiped out the mammoths, and I'm not sure how that's the problem of the white man or even the native americans of the mid 19th century.

Extending your argument to its logical absurdity, no environment can be considered "pristine" unless it's the literal primordial sludge the first life emerged from. Very odd nitpickery.

Re:Haunting photos of the bison extermination in 19th centur... by vundercind on Friday April 12, 2024 @02:34PM (#40016180)
They’d heavily managed the land, especially through intentional burning, for a very long time. That would have shaped entire ecosystems.
Re:Haunting photos of the bison extermination in 19th centur... by icee on Friday April 12, 2024 @02:47PM (#40016333)
This comment makes me feel like I'm on reddit. In a bad way.
Re:Haunting photos of the bison extermination in 19th centur... by bequanna on Friday April 12, 2024 @02:35PM (#40016208)
This simply isn’t true. The Native Americans’ sense of conservation and “living in perfect harmony” is some romantic fantasy.

There are many records of large pre-Columbian settlements exhausting resources (like game and trees) and abandoning entire areas.

There is nothing racist about it. They were humans. They consumed resources and grew their population as aggressively as their technology permitted.

Re:Haunting photos of the bison extermination in 19th centur... by Teever on Friday April 12, 2024 @05:13PM (#40017721)
Seems like you're describing a dynamic equilibrium which is a hell of a lot better than any than that has come after them.