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Re:I Lost Faith in Kagi by eddyzh on Friday April 12, 2024 @02:12PM (#40015936)
Thanks for your response!

Honestly I get the T-shirt part this way. You got to Doo crazy stuff as a start-up. I also get that you try ai stuff. As long as you keep up de search.

However what scares me is the apparent lack of knowledge about privacy, gdpr and what is PII in a product that, to me, is all about privacy. Have one person in the company be an expert in privacy and GDPR etc and use their insights, since it is critical for your right of existence.

Re:I Lost Faith in Kagi by agos on Friday April 12, 2024 @03:47PM (#40016907)
I got the same impression - the lack of understanding of the basics of GDPR makes them look as amateurs, not professionals trying to raise the bar for privacy. I was considering using Kagi, but this is a massive turn off.

They'll likely discover that GDPR is not that optional as soon as a customer (or a competitor with a grudge!) reports them to their relevant national privacy/personal data protection authority, after which they'll get to have a very uncomfortable conversation where they will not be able to use those arguments

Re:I Lost Faith in Kagi by CamperBob2 on Friday April 12, 2024 @08:33PM (#40019174)
Kagi is a US company. GDPR is not a US law.
Re:I Lost Faith in Kagi by budding2141 on Friday April 12, 2024 @09:27PM (#40019560)
Does not really matter as long as they offer it in EU countries.
Re:I Lost Faith in Kagi by CamperBob2 on Friday April 12, 2024 @09:38PM (#40019625)
Even so, it doesn't matter unless the CEO ever sets foot in the EU, I suppose.

(Do you regularly check to make sure you're obeying laws in countries you don't ever intend to visit? No? Then why should Kagi?)

Re:I Lost Faith in Kagi by FoeNyx on Saturday April 13, 2024 @05:17AM (#40021705)
This should matter if Kagi ever intends to do business in the EU.

I suppose a serious breach of regulations, and if Kagi decided to ignore fines, apart from a bad reputation, could ultimately lead to things like judicial decisions of blocking access to the website or blocking payments for EU customers.

Re:I Lost Faith in Kagi by hanspeter on Saturday April 13, 2024 @06:36AM (#40022047)
I think this is an interesting topic.

The scope of GDPR is clearly including businesses operating from the US, but has any company registered only in the US ever been fined by EU?

Re:I Lost Faith in Kagi by hanspeter on Saturday April 13, 2024 @06:32AM (#40022027)
To your point: From the original post it was mentioned they created an entity in Germany (for the T-shirts).

This means they're exposed to GDPR not only indirectly by serving EU citizens but also directly by operating within the EU.

Re:I Lost Faith in Kagi by Aeolun on Friday April 12, 2024 @10:11PM (#40019834)
It’s very simple to just not have all that much PII or customer data. At that point you can more or less ignore GDRP.