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Re:End of the Line? Saudi Arabia to scale back plans for des... by yreg on Thursday April 11, 2024 @05:16AM (#40000105)
Dubai lives from tourism now. Of course, it was bootstrapped by oil.
Re:End of the Line? Saudi Arabia to scale back plans for des... by EduardoBautista on Thursday April 11, 2024 @05:23AM (#40000167)
It also makes money from construction projects. It’s one of the big reasons they offer residence visas to people who buy real estate there.

I live in Dubai but grew up in the United States. Despite what people may believe, there is freedom of religion here, women aren’t oppressed, and the government genuinely cares about having a good city to live in.

Re:End of the Line? Saudi Arabia to scale back plans for des... by yreg on Thursday April 11, 2024 @05:29AM (#40000216)
>about having a good city to live in

I don't want to open a flame war, but I visited the city during the Expo and its a highway with a stripe of skyscrapers on each side and slums beyond. It's impossible to walk anywhere. (To be fair, the public transport is pretty good, as long as you live next to the highway.)

When I read "a good city to live in" I imagine something like Vienna.

Re:End of the Line? Saudi Arabia to scale back plans for des... by inslee1 on Thursday April 11, 2024 @08:02AM (#40001223)
"I went to <insert any major city here> and there's tall buildings and slums beyond"

Even Vienna has slum-like areas, every major city does. Not sure how that's a knock against Dubai. I'm not even sure what slums you saw in Dubai, Having lived there for a few years there's definitely low income housing in certain parts but I'd struggle to call them slums.

Re:End of the Line? Saudi Arabia to scale back plans for des... by hollerith on Thursday April 11, 2024 @08:08AM (#40001250)
GP knows there are large numbers of oppressed people living in Dubai and concludes there must be large slums.
Re:End of the Line? Saudi Arabia to scale back plans for des... by EduardoBautista on Thursday April 11, 2024 @05:33AM (#40000249)
> It's impossible to walk anywhere.

That is fair. I guess my comparison is San Diego (where I grew up) and Mexico, where I lived all of my adult life until moving to Dubai in 2022.

The city is building a new metro line and improving on walkability as new neighborhoods of high population density pop up. It will still be very focused on shopping malls with AC because of the heat during the summers. Official records of real estate transactions have a data point for "closest shopping mall" for a reason.

Re:End of the Line? Saudi Arabia to scale back plans for des... by brtkdotse on Thursday April 11, 2024 @06:07AM (#40000450)
> Official records of real estate transactions have a data point for "closest shopping mall" for a reason.

It baffles me that anyone, let alone a bunch of people, would look at this and say “ah, yes, this seems like a good place to live”.

To each their own, I guess.

Re:End of the Line? Saudi Arabia to scale back plans for des... by EduardoBautista on Thursday April 11, 2024 @06:52AM (#40000769)
If you’ve ever had a gun or knife pointed at you, trust me that “walkability” is not going to be high on your priorities of what makes a city a good place to live. The UAE is safer than Switzerland.
Re:End of the Line? Saudi Arabia to scale back plans for des... by mschuster91 on Thursday April 11, 2024 @07:08AM (#40000879)
> The UAE is safer than Switzerland.

And so is Hong Kong and a few other places. The question is, is that worth the cost? A cost that's mostly hidden from public view and scrutiny?

Re:End of the Line? Saudi Arabia to scale back plans for des... by nicolas_t on Thursday April 11, 2024 @06:03AM (#40000426)
I actually liked how walkable Mexico City is. It used to not be great but I feel that in recent times it's a much nicer city to live in than Dubai. Of course that's only based on living there for 6 months and being relatively wealthy (that said I'd argue Dubai is also only nice if you have the means).
Re:End of the Line? Saudi Arabia to scale back plans for des... by JaimeThompson on Thursday April 11, 2024 @06:19AM (#40000539)
Less than 10 years ago Dubai arrested a British woman for reporting a rape, that is rather oppressive.
Re:End of the Line? Saudi Arabia to scale back plans for des... by graemep on Thursday April 11, 2024 @08:01AM (#40001218)
> there is freedom of religion here,

So most of this is not true according to you:

https://www.state.gov/reports/2016-report-on-international-r...

> women aren’t oppressed

and this is all false too?

https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/03/04/uae-greater-progress-nee...

Re:End of the Line? Saudi Arabia to scale back plans for des... by pantalaimon on Thursday April 11, 2024 @07:17AM (#40000931)
> Despite what people may believe, there is freedom of religion here, women aren’t oppressed

Does this only apply to rich westerners though?