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Re:What John von Neumann Did at Los Alamos by dzolob on Sunday April 07, 2024 @09:15PM (#39965368)
I wonder where in the fascist scale is an atomic bomb that actually got thrown to innocent people.
Re:What John von Neumann Did at Los Alamos by CamperBob2 on Sunday April 07, 2024 @09:58PM (#39965559)
Bomb somebody else's harbor next time, kthxbai
Re:What John von Neumann Did at Los Alamos by sgregnt on Sunday April 07, 2024 @09:42PM (#39965498)
I wonder if writing needs to update the innocence definition. By that measure, it is very easy to claim one.
Re:What John von Neumann Did at Los Alamos by krapp on Monday April 08, 2024 @07:31AM (#39968626)
No, we don't need to update the definition to retroactively legitimize the mass murder of civilians in warfare. The people killed by the atomic bombs were innocent under any sane definition of the term, and the cruelty behind that was intentional. The US wanted to impart to the Japanese that the violent suffering and death of every man, woman and child would be the cost of anything less than their immediate and unconditional surrender.
Re:What John von Neumann Did at Los Alamos by CamperBob2 on Monday April 08, 2024 @03:26PM (#39972862)
Nukes bad, mmkay. Would you have preferred to learn that lesson 6 years later in Korea at the hundred-kiloton level, or 25 years later in Vietnam at the megaton level?

And would you have preferred that Japan be left to the mercies of the Soviets, turning them into what North Korea and Cuba are today?

Childish naïveté, world wars, and postwar geopolitics don't mix.

Re:What John von Neumann Did at Los Alamos by krapp on Monday April 08, 2024 @07:18PM (#39974695)
The only coherent part of your comment is the outdated South Park reference. Sit back down in your armchair, general.