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Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by faeriechangling on Sunday April 07, 2024 @02:42AM (#39958700)
Adjusted for inflation, the cost of a computer has gone down, the cost of repair has stayed relatively steady.
Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by vundercind on Sunday April 07, 2024 @02:46AM (#39958723)
PCs also had only a relatively brief period between “niche hobbyist toy” (because you don’t really need a computer to do much yet) and “niche hobbyist toy” (because most folks do all their important computer-related stuff on their phones). Perhaps 15 years. Maybe less.

Did they have a lot of business contracts? If not, I don’t know how they’ve even hung on this long.

Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by AlchemistCamp on Sunday April 07, 2024 @03:18AM (#39958873)
Everywhere I’ve ever worked, “important computer-related stuff” has been done on computers with large monitors and external keyboards. Those have often been laptops at docking stations, but I’ve never seen phones used as the primary driver.
Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by LikesPwsh on Sunday April 07, 2024 @04:09AM (#39959144)
Phones with docked keyboard and mouse seems almost inevitable.
Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by wolpoli on Sunday April 07, 2024 @05:10AM (#39959460)
Both Apple and Google are resisting that future. Samsung seems to the only one embracing it.
Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by krtkush on Sunday April 07, 2024 @05:17AM (#39959499)
Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by nedrylandJP on Monday April 08, 2024 @12:46PM (#39971484)
Just to be clear, that is 5 years old.
Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by wolpoli on Tuesday April 09, 2024 @01:21PM (#39981725)
Just realized that Pixel 8 does have display out. So Google is now embracing the future.
Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by AlchemistCamp on Sunday April 07, 2024 @09:24AM (#39960598)
Microsoft has been showing that kind of integration in videos about the future of work for at least a decade: https://youtu.be/SO49Q-HcuKE?si=iCYcBh-a9RmODiVf
Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by Avicebron on Monday April 08, 2024 @12:39PM (#39971432)
I mean you're not far off, I have clients who are pretty much all in MS surface + peripherals as their primary workstation for their employees. Similar thing with some clients and chromebooks/google workspace, not quite phones, but the idea of a portable device docked into a station is pretty much the norm. I've seen huge portions of different businesses barely rely on computers to be much more than a vessel for a different flavor of enterprise related apps
Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by dingnuts on Monday April 08, 2024 @01:23PM (#39971836)
dock to what, and why? and why a mouse? the thing already has a touchscreen. If you want to type faster you can buy Bluetooth keyboards and stands for your devices today, including some Bluetooth keyboards that have a little slot in them to hold your phone or tablet.

If you have enough money to have the space for a desk with a keyboard, monitor, and screen, the cost of a dedicated computer to plug into it isn't going to be an obstacle. I think this is the reason we haven't seen docking take off.

Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by maxsilver on Monday April 08, 2024 @04:12PM (#39973235)
We're really close to that already. (I haven't seen a desktop computer under a desk in years -- basically every modern office, is a bunch of perhreprials on a dock, tied to one single USB-C/Thunderbolt cable, that gets plugged into a laptop.

If iPhones / iPads ever get macOS or equivilent, I'm pretty sure people would switch. It's mostly an Apple-enforced rule preventing it, not necessarily any actual software or hardware.

Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by Fire-Dragon-DoL on Sunday April 07, 2024 @03:32AM (#39958953)
It's possible that you will need a couple more generations to get there
Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by vundercind on Sunday April 07, 2024 @03:19AM (#39958884)
> Did they have a lot of business contracts?
Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by Vegenoid on Monday April 08, 2024 @12:48PM (#39971524)
> Everywhere I’ve ever worked, “important computer-related stuff” has been done on computers with large monitors and external keyboards.

Geek Squad is not IT support for businesses, it's IT support for consumers. Consumers definitely have had computer usage/necessity displaced by phones. Many consumers will now only have a computer through their work or school, and those will have their own IT.

Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by ipaddr on Monday April 08, 2024 @03:51PM (#39973072)
89% of Americans have a home computer. 97% have a phone. 8%.
Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by Vegenoid on Thursday April 18, 2024 @05:00PM (#40080655)
I'd be interested to see usage stats, as I'll bet the discrepancy there is way larger. I have a number of non-technical friends who own a laptop, but use it once every few months, or longer, because the things they used to need it for they can now do on their phone.
Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by nytesky on Monday April 08, 2024 @12:52PM (#39971563)
PP was referring to the home computing needs, not work. geek squad is only for consumers more or less.

very true, my kids and wife dont really email enough to need a keyboard, just message or app messages, banking and watching videos and shopping all done on phone or MAYBE tablet. Cloud stores all the photos and documents. You can do your taxes on the phone, which is probably the most complicated “home” task majority of people do.

Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by AlchemistCamp on Wednesday April 10, 2024 @06:20PM (#39996303)
Still, most “important computer-related stuff” people have to deal with at home is work-related, at least from what I've seen.

I know some older people who don't work with computers at all and just have mobile phones but they don't do anything important on them and instead continue doing those things by phone and dead tree mail for the most part.

Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by gregmac on Sunday April 07, 2024 @09:56AM (#39960796)
Yeah, this is just a continuation of the demise of tv repair shops.

Consider from the perspective of an average, non-technical person - someone who has never installed an OS or opened the case.

Their $900, 3-year old system "breaks". It'll cost $100 to diagnose, and anywhere from tens to hundreds to fix. Is it worth it? They're going to consider just buying a new $900 system, which will be faster and back under warranty again.

While a broken tv could be a $0.50 capacitor, the shame is a huge number of "broken" computers are purely software problems: sometimes malware, sometimes fixed by updating a driver, or even just changing a setting (And of course also "fixed" by paving over and installing a new OS).

This isn't hard to learn, but understandably people don't have the time or desire. And the value-risk-cost balance is off when compared to buying new. So perfectly good hardware becomes e-waste.

Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by Y_Y on Monday April 08, 2024 @12:31PM (#39971348)
I'd say this is a textbook example of Baumol's Cost Disease.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baumol_effect

Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by paxys on Monday April 08, 2024 @12:31PM (#39971353)
There isn't much repair to be done anymore. It's not like these "Geek Squad" employees are opening up your iPhone to diagnose and fix a problem. They are simply salespeople.
Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by Wingman4l7 on Monday April 08, 2024 @12:34PM (#39971384)
They didn't have the expertise nor care to do proper repair back even when they could. I had a friend in ~2006 take a Windows desktop PC to them that wasn't booting; they told her to buy a new (needlessly large capacity) hard drive. I took a look at it, and fixed it... by running CHKDSK.
Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by craftkiller on Monday April 08, 2024 @12:40PM (#39971433)
> There isn't much repair to be done anymore.

I want to to qualify that as: "There isn't much repair to be done anymore at geek squad." Computer/cellphone repair is still alive. For example, pretty much anyone with some time on their hands and access to youtube can do cellphone screen replacements. I've personally replaced the screen on my phones 4 times, and the battery once, all without any training or past experience. Laptops are even easier since you don't have to pry a screen off.

Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by creer on Monday April 08, 2024 @01:39PM (#39972002)
That has been the case forever. Geek Squad and Co cater to most people - who won' t attempt even the simplest repair themselves. After that, yeah, the incentives are poorly aligned for the customer - when the repair business is also one of the main sellers of new hardware...
Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by ipaddr on Monday April 08, 2024 @03:56PM (#39973110)
Why so many screen repairs?
Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by craftkiller on Monday April 08, 2024 @05:11PM (#39973759)
Try as I may, I haven't been able to find a solution to the treacherous force of gravity, my local government has ignored my pleas for softer sidewalks, and I can't shake my addiction to dropping things. My most recent screen replacement was because I placed my phone on a table outside, foolishly not realizing that flat != level.
Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by bluedino on Monday April 08, 2024 @12:47PM (#39971496)
Isn't Best Buy doing (some) Apple repairs now?
Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by paxys on Monday April 08, 2024 @01:04PM (#39971680)
Last time I checked they weren't doing any repairs on site. They would collect your device and ship it off to a service center.
Re:Best Buy Geek Squad employees report mass layoffs by underlipton on Monday April 08, 2024 @01:03PM (#39971665)
They are indeed. Mostly screen replacements.