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Re:Tesla Cancels Mass-Market $25,000 Car, Musk Says This Is ... by xnx on Saturday April 06, 2024 @12:16PM (#39953408)
People keep talking about robotaxis as if the important part is the vehicle (wheels, motor, seats, etc.) the vehicle is almost totally interchangeable if you have a capable software driving system.

Tesla is very far from having a reliable and safe driving system. 15 minutes of good driving footage is a neat tech demo, but for a deployable product you need 1,000,000 minutes of safe driving.

Re:Tesla Cancels Mass-Market $25,000 Car, Musk Says This Is ... by Climato on Saturday April 06, 2024 @12:26PM (#39953481)
He doesn't has to start everywhere.

It's already interesting if he does it in a big city he knows we'll.

Nonetheless the YT videos of the self driving stuff looks quite good.

You need to start somewhere and others are already doing it.

Re:Tesla Cancels Mass-Market $25,000 Car, Musk Says This Is ... by SR2Z on Saturday April 06, 2024 @01:01PM (#39953713)
The others are much further along than Tesla because they aren't making hardware decisions to sell profitable cars. Waymo and Cruise both use radars, lidars, and more cameras than Tesla.
Re:Tesla Cancels Mass-Market $25,000 Car, Musk Says This Is ... by Climato on Saturday April 06, 2024 @05:36PM (#39955810)
The last time I watched their keynote and deep dives, at least from ml point of view they do a lot right
Re:Tesla Cancels Mass-Market $25,000 Car, Musk Says This Is ... by tdalaa on Sunday April 07, 2024 @04:35AM (#39959297)
Tesla is far far closer to realizing a fully self driving car. Since Tesla made FSD (supervised) available for everyone in the US, a couple of weeks ago, there have been mountains of videos posted on X of people driving in all kinds of wild real world conditions, including big city driving, long road trips, in construction zones, crazy weather etc etc. [1]

Tesla announced a couple of days ago that they had passed 1 billion(!) miles on FSD, and growing exponentially [2]. In Elon's master plan from 8 years ago, he wrote they expected 6 billion miles before more global regulatory approval [3].

It's not there yet, but it's far far closer than most people realize. Me, personally, I think end of 2024, Tesla can demonstrate 2-3 billion miles driven on FSD and that a self-driving car is at least 10-20x safer than human drivers.

[1] https://twitter.com/Tesla/status/1775238945506210004 [2] https://twitter.com/Tesla_AI/status/1776381278071267807 [3] https://www.tesla.com/blog/master-plan-part-deux