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Re:The Triumph of Philanthropy (2018) by resource_waste on Thursday April 04, 2024 @05:21AM (#39928182)
Maybe I need to take care of myself first, but after 2 decades of committing myself to Philanthropy, I feel a bit betrayed.

I drank the Stoic koolaid and similar.

Then something bad happens, no one helps you, and you realize you've spent all this time working for other people who don't even know you exist.

(I'm a 6 fig programmer, I just wish I would have enjoyed more, and given away less time and money to those 'less fortunate')

Re:The Triumph of Philanthropy (2018) by siborg on Thursday April 04, 2024 @05:25AM (#39928212)
I've experienced a similar situation. I spent 20 years giving a lot more than what I received, but I've started questioning the impact of what I gave and if it was all worth it. I'm currently on the side of - it wasn't.

| I drank the Stoic koolaid and similar.

My fav sentence of today.

Re:The Triumph of Philanthropy (2018) by xkcd1963 on Thursday April 04, 2024 @07:16AM (#39928864)
I'm in a similar situation. But I decided its anyway silly how disproportionate wealth distributes. I buy properties now and allow a zero-sum rent for my tenants.
Re:The Triumph of Philanthropy (2018) by lupire on Thursday April 04, 2024 @09:01AM (#39929860)
The secret is that you don't need money to "enjoy" life once your primary needs are met. More than that is chasing a high via materialistic consumption and pollution.

If you want to save money for yourself in case something bad happens, go for it. Then you've got to decide who gets the leftover wealth when you die.

Re:The Triumph of Philanthropy (2018) by resource_waste on Thursday April 04, 2024 @09:35AM (#39930233)
>More than that is chasing a high via materialistic consumption and pollution.

Yeah that is what we are told by the people who control the information you receive. Live a minimalist life because that's all you need.

There are two sides of philosophy(IMO), those that believe in idealism, and those that believe in realism. I can flip back to Stoic idealism, but there is something real about Humans wanting More.

Re:The Triumph of Philanthropy (2018) by Retric on Thursday April 04, 2024 @10:31AM (#39930896)
I don’t think it’s as much that consuming less is important from a philosophical standpoint as it is a practical one. Buy a new phone and you’ll spend time on the transaction and transferring information etc.

There’s a huge influence to always consume more pushed by anyone selling stuff and ever nicer stuff to buy. However, every transaction has a non monetary costs and staying ahead of the curve costs time even if you don’t need to worry about money.

It even extends to exotic vacations and other life experiences people promote. Sure you can got to Antarctica but the going itself means airports etc. Not a big deal once but if you had unlimited money would you really want to spend 5% of your waking hours in an airplane? The point of maximum happiness is far from such extremes.

Re:The Triumph of Philanthropy (2018) by resource_waste on Thursday April 04, 2024 @11:23AM (#39931580)
You are thinking too wholesome.

There are easier, quicker, etc... ways to get dopamine.

Re:The Triumph of Philanthropy (2018) by Retric on Thursday April 04, 2024 @12:06PM (#39932229)
And? Just about anything can get you a dopamine hit, but they become less effective over time which is why you can get out of bed in the morning.

Net result you can’t really win the dopamine game. Long term an ascetic monk gets just as much of that high as a billionaire playboy, the playboy just works harder for it.

Re:The Triumph of Philanthropy (2018) by resource_waste on Thursday April 04, 2024 @12:57PM (#39932980)
Cycle where in the brain you are getting dopamine?
Re:The Triumph of Philanthropy (2018) by Retric on Thursday April 04, 2024 @02:43PM (#39934278)
It’s produced in many parts of the brain for a bunch of different reasons.

The substantia nigra, part of the basal ganglia, produces it for basic motor functions like eye movements. Which is why it’s linked to Parkinson’s.

Re:The Triumph of Philanthropy (2018) by lupire on Thursday April 11, 2024 @12:57PM (#40004325)
Humans wants "More" but you can point that desire. More enlightenment, more friendship, more power, not more expensive things that aren't better than cheap things. Kids and cats know that the box is more fun than the boxed.

I'm not saying to be happy earning less. I'm saying to be happy consuming less.