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Re:Israel used AI to identify 37,000 Hamas targets by gotoeleven on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @05:20PM (#39923320)
I think everyone even the israelis would love to not be responsible for the palestinians in any way but unfortunately whatever autonomy they have is used to build infrastructure to attack israel. So what is israel supposed to do?
Re:Israel used AI to identify 37,000 Hamas targets by notok on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @05:37PM (#39923531)
Stop occupying and brutalizing them, and agree to two states along the 1967 borders, as called for by both international law and every other country in the world.
Re:Israel used AI to identify 37,000 Hamas targets by yonixw on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @05:54PM (#39923734)
They did, in Gaza, in 2005. Only to wake up to a Hamas takeover and rocket shooting on Israel civilians (war crime), which brought the Gaza siege.

Or maybe the world can give some new suggestion that was not disproven by history?

Re:Israel used AI to identify 37,000 Hamas targets by YeGoblynQueenne on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @06:35PM (#39924175)
Please check your facts. Nobody woke up to a Hamas takeover. Quite the opposite: there was a takeover attempt by a Fatah faction (a coup) armed by the US. The coup backfired, there was a civil war, Hamas won and it came to control Gaza.

You can find this on wikipedia, so it's not like it's some conspiracy theory brewing in the dark corners of the internets. Even Vanity Fair has written about it:

In April 2008 Vanity Fair published "The Gaza Bombshell":

There is no one more hated among Hamas members than Muhammad Dahlan, long Fatah's resident strongman in Gaza. Dahlan, who most recently served as Abbas's national-security adviser, has spent more than a decade battling Hamas. ... Bush has met Dahlan on at least three occasions. After talks at the White House in July 2003, Bush publicly praised Dahlan as "a good, solid leader." In private, say multiple Israeli and American officials, the U.S. president described him as "our guy."

Vanity Fair has obtained confidential documents, since corroborated by sources in the U.S. and Palestine, which lay bare a covert initiative, approved by Bush and implemented by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Deputy National Security Adviser Elliott Abrams, to provoke a Palestinian civil war. The plan was for forces led by Dahlan, and armed with new weapons supplied at America's behest, to give Fatah the muscle it needed to remove the democratically elected Hamas-led government from power. (The State Department declined to comment.)

Some sources call the scheme "Iran-contra 2.0," recalling that Abrams was convicted (and later pardoned) for withholding information from Congress during the original Iran-contra scandal under President Reagan. There are echoes of other past misadventures as well: the C.I.A.'s 1953 ouster of an elected prime minister in Iran, which set the stage for the 1979 Islamic revolution there; the aborted 1961 Bay of Pigs invasion, which gave Fidel Castro an excuse to solidify his hold on Cuba; and the contemporary tragedy in Iraq.[66]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_e...

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Re:Israel used AI to identify 37,000 Hamas targets by yonixw on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @06:10PM (#39923904)
In 2005? Nope. So the point still stand. And in later 2020+, Armed? Nope. only allowing Qatar money to pass was choosing between 2 evils which doesn't mean you support them. I mean, what is the option you try to refer to which would not lead to this point with a Dictatorship Terroristic Religious government of Gaza, which only backed by Iran?
Re:Israel used AI to identify 37,000 Hamas targets by gotoeleven on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @06:28PM (#39924104)
Isnt this pretty much what they were offered in 2000 but rejected? And if we're just talking about Gaza, Hamas wouldn't accept this. They'd just use the autonomy to make more rockets and rape tunnels. Do you have any answers that aren't just magical thinking?
Re:Israel used AI to identify 37,000 Hamas targets by gebruikersnaam on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @05:52PM (#39923713)
> So what is israel supposed to do?

Not be an genocidal apartheid state? It's actually quite simple.

Re:Israel used AI to identify 37,000 Hamas targets by yonixw on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @05:57PM (#39923770)
Kind of hard to do when you elevate any conflict to a genocide, while literally ignoring the wrong doing that caused this war. Especially when the INT. community don't agree with you (other then just increase aid, which is totally fair).

I mean, can explain why some hostage are kept STILL as "domestic slaves" [1] by Hamas? Any buzzword on this one for the Gaza State?

[1] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13234071/Israeli-fa...

Re:Israel used AI to identify 37,000 Hamas targets by gebruikersnaam on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @06:05PM (#39923851)
Pure hasbara to call this a war.

The fact that you try to dismiss the genocide means you're not acting in good faith. Stop with the disingenuous questions and own zionism.