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Re:Fisker's Ocean SUV investigated for doors that won't open by dave78 on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @12:15PM (#39919323)
I assume some of it is because these electric car companies need an edge - if they just made the car the same way Toyota and Honda does then it would appear to the consumer to just be an electrified Civic or Corolla.

I think they're trying to come off as futuristic, luxury, and exotic, and I guess that requires making things different for the sake of differentiation.

Perhaps it's also a bit of arrogance, thinking that they can make a better door handle than the old, stodgy automakers (and then finding out the hard way that sometimes things are the way they are for a reason).

On the other hand, I've noticed on my last few cars that the door handles sometimes feel like they're going to break if I pull too hard, like when the doors are frozen shut during freezing rain conditions. Maybe the traditional handles aren't that great either (though none have actually broken on me yet).

Re:Fisker's Ocean SUV investigated for doors that won't open by sandworm101 on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @12:42PM (#39919654)
>> just be an electrified Civic

Take my money! That is exactly what I want. I want a basic car that does car stuff. Cut the networking. Cut the touchscreens. I want a car that starts and moves reliably with some basic comforts. I would pay more for a car without touchscreens. I would pay more for an electric car without bluetooth.

Re:Fisker's Ocean SUV investigated for doors that won't open by MarkusWandel on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @01:09PM (#39920077)
Then buy a Civic. I have a 2023. It has a touchscreen. Which is entirely devoted to "non core functionality" such as bluetooth calling (which also has steering wheel controls), Android Auto/Apple Carplay, radio etc. The only "core" functionality is that it displays backup camera video when reversing.

All the standard buttons and controls are there. The button to push the trunk, the child lock enable/disable, the mirror adjusts, the (electric) parking brake, you name it. Nothing that was a physical control on my previous cars has been touchscreened. The car even has a completely separate menu system, with a completely separate gauge-cluster LCD, for the "core" stuff. Not touch screen. Steering wheel buttons. That menu system isn't the greatest, but you also don't need it day to day.

Re:Fisker's Ocean SUV investigated for doors that won't open by sandworm101 on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @02:52PM (#39921449)
I still want a manual transmission (if not an EV) and manual parking brake. I keep cars for decades. I don't want to deal with "conveniences" that brick the rest of the car when they break.
Re:Fisker's Ocean SUV investigated for doors that won't open by numpad0 on Thursday April 04, 2024 @11:44AM (#39931870)
It's actually just Tesla anticonsumerism that the touchscreen is integral to the car. In legacy cars with A/C knobs separate to the screen, the screen is usually just eyecandy that can be safely removed without impacting everything up to self driving. It's just airliner seatback movie screen for cars has nothing to do with flying or driving.

So if you get a ... I'm not particularly Honda inclined, so I'd say, if you go for anything in the price range of Civic or vicinity, and made sure there's separate physical A/C knobs that aren't connected to the center screen, you should be able to just later install a 2035 Adobe CarPlayAuto 23.4 compliant head unit when the time comes, and keep the car just as you wish(dc I'm not a car manufacturer rep, dyor required).

Re:Fisker's Ocean SUV investigated for doors that won't open by bdcravens on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @01:29PM (#39920393)
They want a Civic EV.
Re:Fisker's Ocean SUV investigated for doors that won't open by kraquepype on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @01:00PM (#39919937)
Same, I ended up with a Kia Niro EV (previous gen) because it doesn't resemble your typical bleeding edge EV.

It shares a platform with the ICE Niro, and aside from the charging port and obvious lack of exhaust pipe it doesn't look like an EV.

Give me a basic EV that looks like a normal car and I'd be happy.

Re:Fisker's Ocean SUV investigated for doors that won't open by mcguire on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @01:52PM (#39920652)
Wasn't that how Tesla started, making an electrified version of a Lotus Elan?