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Re:Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results by ayan on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @10:44AM (#39906303)
i hope elon's behavior is part of the drop in demand. i'm afraid it is mostly economic though.
Re:Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results by mplanchard on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @11:06AM (#39906573)
Anecdotal, but this is absolutely the case for me. The widely reported fit-and-finish issues would have made me hesitant regardless, but as long as it's Elon's company I will not be buying a Tesla regardless of improvements in quality. Bought a Prius plug-in hybrid instead (which I'm very happy with).

Prior to Elon taking the mask off I was really excited about the idea of getting a Tesla, and I'm squarely in what I imagine must be the main target demographic.

Re:Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results by misiti3780 on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @11:30AM (#39906879)
That is fine, but you are basically driving a flip phone when you could be driving an iphone. The Prius driving experience and technology are not good.
Re:Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results by danw1979 on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @01:15PM (#39908270)
The Prius driving experience is excellent. I’ve had two gen 3 prii (one a plug in) for 10 & 6 years respectively and can’t find anything to dislike apart from the lack of acceleration above 45mph. Regular cruise control, buttons for everything, excellent economy, zero road tax, huge cargo capacity for a family car.

I kind of like my flip phone thank you very much.

Re:Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results by misiti3780 on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @03:18PM (#39909762)
You do you!
Re:Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results by mplanchard on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @08:35PM (#39912408)
It has served me just fine getting up and down the mountains in the Vermont winter with snow tires, so I don’t really have anything to complain about. I have also had zero maintenance issues with it so far. The electric mode has great torque, especially with power driving mode turned on.
Re:Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results by kstrauser on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @10:51AM (#39906391)
I saw a bumper sticker on one: “I bought this before Elon went crazy”.

It’s not great when your customers are embarrassed to be seen driving the car you made.

Re:Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results by ddoolin on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @10:45AM (#39906314)
I shared this in my other comment, but there is some support for that notion: https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/would-...
Re:Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results by ayan on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @10:48AM (#39906353)
great article. i have a tesla -- it is a great car. i regret that elon is such an awful person and i will definitely look elsewhere before buying another.

at least as long as he's involved.

Re:Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results by cmsj on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @10:57AM (#39906460)
Tesla should be absolutely terrified of this. I think lots of us would love to like Elon, but the man is such a disgrace that we are actively disincentivised to root for his success.
Re:Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results by jghn on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @11:01AM (#39906516)
I went from assuming that a Tesla would be my next car to assuming that an EV that's not a Tesla will be my next car. All because of Musk.
Re:Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results by rvnx on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @10:53AM (#39906409)
I really hope it will support stalks soon or have turn indicators actually placed on left+right.
Re:Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results by sgc on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @10:56AM (#39906454)
I am shopping for an EV right now. I absolutely refuse to look at Teslas. So there is some effect of unknown size, and in hard times that added effect can push things over an edge.
Re:Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results by Ekaros on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @10:48AM (#39906350)
Or the reality that there is lot more options so people gravitate towards them. And brand loyalty might also be a thing, of which there is lot for also other brands.
Re:Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results by rvnx on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @11:01AM (#39906520)
The technological gap is tightening, Tesla was alone before, the same way that Nvidia is "alone" for now.

Tesla still has some advance in terms of autopilot (in the US), but for all other things, it's an electric car with a great software but a rather low-quality hardware finish if to compare with other brands like Mercedes.

Re:Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results by williamsmj on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @11:54AM (#39907194)
> The technological gap is tightening, Tesla was alone before, the same way that Nvidia is "alone" for now.

It's worse than that. Nvidia has a moat (deployed software and the open source software ecosystem) that buys them at least a few years, even if a well-resourced hardware peer appeared out of thin air tomorrow. Tesla has nothing like this. The cost of switching away from them is negligible, and they have half a dozen extremely well-resourced competitors.

Re:Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results by ein0p on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @11:21AM (#39906785)
It also has much better range than the Mercedes, accelerates faster, costs nearly half as much, and can use Superchargers. I can forgive the slightly less fancy "finish" for all that.
Re:Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results by cma on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @11:33AM (#39906919)
When Tesla gets tight for money they raise the Supercharger price to more than gas, it happened once around 2018 during a cash crunch.
Re:Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results by ein0p on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @11:36AM (#39906968)
I rarely use it (the vast majority of Tesla owners charge at home), but when I do, I appreciate the fact that it's there, even if the price is higher. It's still cheaper than gas. I actually think that's kind of the idea. One or two long road trips per year become possible. With most other EVs they're a dicey proposition still.
Re:Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results by cma on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @11:40AM (#39907023)
Yeah I think they lowered it back after a backlash and an improvement in their financial situation.
Re:Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results by seydor on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @11:02AM (#39906538)
very few people outside the permanently online care about this
Re:Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results by evantbyrne on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @11:20AM (#39906758)
Perhaps! That leads to a question actually: I wonder how many people know that Musk intentionally reinstated accounts for literal neo nazis, and very obviously has personal knowledge of Andrew Anglin being on the service? I suspect most people do not know, because getting caught providing material support for nazism would destroy a normal person's reputation.
Re:Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results by macintux on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @11:27AM (#39906849)
The 2016 election changed the calculus. Supporting white supremacists is no longer a deal-breaker.
Re:Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results by leetharris on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @11:18AM (#39906735)
It seems to me this is heavily related to Elon being a vocal Republican.

I wonder if people would care as much if he was a quiet Republican?

Re:Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results by timbit42 on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @11:22AM (#39906803)
I don't think it's so much because he is Republican. It's what he says that matters.
Re:Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results by cma on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @11:30AM (#39906866)
Promoting great replacement theory is very different than vocal Republican. He only said the Republican persecution thing after he was informed the horse for handjob scandal was going to be reported: they emailed him for comment and he immediately made the post.
Re:Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results by ahahahahah on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @03:54PM (#39910183)
> Promoting great replacement theory is very different than vocal Republican

They used to be very different. Today, not so much.