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Re:The failed attempt to backdoor SSH globally – that got ca... by raverbashing on Monday April 01, 2024 @04:43AM (#39891967)
Really

I get the idea of systemd and I do think that the Unix principles were good for the 70s but maybe not so great today

Still in the true LP fashion, a lot of design decisions are not being thought with stability or longevity in mind

Re:The failed attempt to backdoor SSH globally – that got ca... by blueflow on Monday April 01, 2024 @05:36AM (#39892278)
Its acceptable for avahi and pulseaudio because you don't need to use them.

With systemd, its a big problem because systemd is widely distributed. Systemd failed on its promise to create a new standard for defining services. Right now a ton of projects ship their own supervisor (runit, supervisord) or docker compose file to reduce their contact surface to systemd. Look what GitLab Omnibus does.

But with everything connected to systemd (udev, dbus), anything without systemd is sort of second class in terms of being tested. Ideally i would have the stability of Debian without the surprises from systemd. I tell people to "Press Ctrl+Alt+Del 7 times within two seconds" way too often.

Re:The failed attempt to backdoor SSH globally – that got ca... by medstrom on Monday April 01, 2024 @04:51AM (#39892006)
LP?
Re:The failed attempt to backdoor SSH globally – that got ca... by syslog on Monday April 01, 2024 @05:00AM (#39892041)
My guess is „Lennart Poettering“.
Re:The failed attempt to backdoor SSH globally – that got ca... by yunohn on Monday April 01, 2024 @04:59AM (#39892038)
I assume Lennart Poettering, creator of systemd et all.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lennart_Poettering

Re:The failed attempt to backdoor SSH globally – that got ca... by LtWorf on Monday April 01, 2024 @05:41AM (#39892304)
You know that if it hadn't been a library linked by systemd, it would have just been another library right?

Your hastiness to hate on systemd made you forget what we're even talking about…

Re:The failed attempt to backdoor SSH globally – that got ca... by raverbashing on Monday April 01, 2024 @06:11AM (#39892471)
Maybe

But why in tarnation they need libxz to talk to systemd over dbus? Harm reduction should start there

And also maybe let's rethink dbus or bring it to a modern standard and not be just Corba for geeks.

Re:The failed attempt to backdoor SSH globally – that got ca... by LtWorf on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @01:12PM (#39920131)
Yes let's rewrite everything… that will fix security! /s