Re:XZ Backdoor: Times, damned times, and scams
by ufmace on Sunday March 31, 2024 @09:58PM
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Probably worth considering here - if this was a state-sponsored attack, it's entirely possible (and exactly what I would do if I was running such a program) that there is one person or department actually writing the code and list messages etc, and another person or team who sits between that department and the internet and whose entire job is to ensure that everything that comes out from the development team takes place at actual times and with timestamps that are consistent with whatever story they're using for the project. Possibly even once in a while intentionally inserting a "mistake" to hint to investigators that the person's real location is another chosen place, which is also different from the real place where the project is being run.
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Re:XZ Backdoor: Times, damned times, and scams
by bombcar on Sunday March 31, 2024 @10:55PM
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Exactly. Once you assume that it’s more than “a lone wolf/single guy” many more things become possible.
Including carefully curating things to appear in a location and to NOT appear to be more than one person.
Re:XZ Backdoor: Times, damned times, and scams
by dotps1 on Monday April 01, 2024 @06:20AM
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Always .. however the holiday schedule thing does stand out as something that could have been missed by the orchestrators.
Re:XZ Backdoor: Times, damned times, and scams
by apantel on Sunday March 31, 2024 @11:05PM
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This is the real point.
Re:XZ Backdoor: Times, damned times, and scams
by omoikane on Monday April 01, 2024 @02:04AM
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It's likely that there is a whole team behind this operation, and part of that team might include tasks such as "socially engineer XZ project to accept a maintainer of our choice."
This was suggested in a different post[1], where there seem to be newly created accounts that came out of nowhere to create a sense of urgency, which might have accelerated the maintainer role transition.
[1] https://connortumbleson.com/2024/03/31/watching-xz-unfold-fr...
via: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39888854
Search for "Progress will not happen until there is new maintainer" for the relevant text.